Bass Culture Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Accidentally caught Them Crooked Vultures after 'Later' last Friday and didn't turned over as a friend had coincidentally mentioned them during the day. I thought I'd give them a go because she'd mentioend the Queens of the Stone Age connection. Sat back with my glass of red wine, wifey having gone to bed, and was suddenly confronted not only by Dave Grohl on drums but John Paul Jones playing bass. Absolutely f**king brilliant! The playing was incredible and JPJ proceeded to swap between a variety of Manson mulit-string basses - which all sounded fantastic. These two made for one of the best rhythm sections I've heard in years. Just goes to show what a natural fit Grohl would have been for the Zeppelin reunion gigs. Was too slow off the mark to record it but I was in heaven for the half an hur or so it was on. Anyone else catch it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Any idea what the show was called? Going to look at the iPlayer now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexisonfire Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) It was the Reading festival highlights I got to see them at Leeds festival (secret show) and was bloody amazing! Edited November 22, 2009 by alexisonfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Can't say I was overly impressed. Its not that it was bad, it just seemed a bit Queens of the Stonage-lite. Really, why not just call it Queens of the Stoneage since it is based around a revolving door of musicians? That said I support most of Josh Homme's musical decisions/directions and I always prefer Dave Grohl behind a kit than behind a mic. Will probably give the album a shot at least before I form a concrete opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl_Jammin Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I f**king love the album. Although, as thodrik rightly points out, it is very similar to QOTSA (this might have something to do with it being recording at Homme's studio, mixed partly by him, and includes his recognisable guitar and vocal style), some areas of the album are straight out of the mind of JPJ. For example the big riffs in 'No One Loves Me...' and 'Elephants' sound like their taken right off his solo album Zooma. Also songs like 'Reptiles' and to some extent 'Warsaw...' just scream Led Zep. After giving the album a few listens, you can really hear the tightness of the rhythm section. My only real gripe is that JPJ's bass is just a little too low in the mix. I would have thought they'd give him a little more sonic space - after all this is the man behind Kashmir and Black Dog! By the way, if you're into vinyl, this album really lends itself to being spun. My LP verses a 320 kbs rip is much warmer and generally more musically enjoyable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Culture Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 [quote name='Pearl_Jammin' post='661777' date='Nov 22 2009, 02:00 PM']By the way, if you're into vinyl, this album really lends itself to being spun. My LP verses a 320 kbs rip is much warmer and generally more musically enjoyable![/quote] I love my vinyl - appreciate the advice. I agree about the Queens of the Stone Age comments; the same would apply to the Eagles of Death Metal too, I guess. None of which, of course, makes any of them bad and it does it helps to distinguish between the various musicians involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks for the heads up! The only thing I would say was that live Josh Homme's vocals were really weedy. I trust they are a bit more impactful on the album versions? Can I also say that I don't think that Grohl would have been right for the Led Zep reunion - his timing is far too "modern". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillbilly deluxe Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks,i need to buy this now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William James Easton Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 when i first heard about them it made me cringe. another over hyped super group of elite rock stars. however i was pleased to hear them, not great but not bad. not bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl_Jammin Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='BigRedX' post='661799' date='Nov 22 2009, 02:26 PM']Thanks for the heads up! The only thing I would say was that live Josh Homme's vocals were really weedy. I trust they are a bit more impactful on the album versions? Can I also say that I don't think that Grohl would have been right for the Led Zep reunion - his timing is far too "modern".[/quote] Homme knows how to deliver his voice to give it some authority on record. While he's not the strongest singer, he comes through well on the album. And I agree on the Grohl/Led Zep comment. Mostly because Jason Bonham is the man and most agree (there were always going to be critics...) that he absolutely killed it at the O2 arena. However on the TCV album, Grohl's drums have been produced to sound BIG, Bonham style. Listen to the contrast between his drum sound on Songs for the Deaf and TCV and you will immediately hear that they have tried to make that rhythm section sound as 'Led Zep' as possible. Edited November 22, 2009 by Pearl_Jammin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_g Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 this chap on youtube has loadsa recordings of qotsa and them crooked vultures [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izmeZkIXsOc&feature=sub"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izmeZkIXsOc&feature=sub[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) Quite liking the TCV album. Definitely some JPJ influence there Yes, it is very QOTSA-esque. But with the amount of Kyuss and QOTSA in my collection, that's no bad thing. Yes, Grohl's delivery is "Modern" but as also mentioned, super tight. Check out "No-one knows" (From Songs For The Deaf) Live at the Troubadour for Grohl, Homme and Olivieri tearing it up. That said, when I saw QOTSA (on their first uk tour) Alfredo Hernandez was drumming, and they were excellent as well. Edited November 22, 2009 by Lfalex v1.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic_Groove Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Just watched it on iplayer I thought it was great --- Now gassing for a 12 string (1 course) bass!! Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2000 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I caught this by accident, didn't have a clue who they were. For a while I thought the bass player looked a lot like JPJ, but that it's a shame he couldn't play like him. Then I realised it was him... Loved JPJ in Zepplin, but to be honest I wouldn't cross the road to watch this lot. Having said that I bought Zooma when it came out and was stunned at how incredibly crap it was. Maybe it's just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 As much as JPJ probably loved playing with Bonham, you can't expect him to find Bonham clones to pair up with every time he plays surely. Grohl is a great drummer, and I'm sure JPJ enjoys the different style regardless of the drummer he plays with. I listened to a bit of the Youtube clips and it's very QOTSA but then it's going to be isn't it? However, I think the bass is very Zep'ish. Funny that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) I'm not a Zep fan nor a QOTSA fan but caught this and through the bass playing was very good. JPJ was the epitome of cool, I thought. Edited November 22, 2009 by Kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='Bass Culture' post='661745' date='Nov 22 2009, 01:09 PM']The playing was incredible and JPJ proceeded to swap between a variety of Manson mulit-string basses[/quote] Wot? No single string basses at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Culture Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='Count Bassy' post='662285' date='Nov 23 2009, 12:03 AM']Wot? No single string basses at all?[/quote] He shoots, he scores! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I [i]reeeeeaaally[/i] want to like TCV, but from what I've heard so far I'm underwhelmed. I fealt the same about the recent band with Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony and Satch, forget the name, forgot the album already it was so dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I heard the album the other day. I really loved "songs for the deaf" and was hoping some of that was down to Grohl influencing Homme, but apparently not as this just sounds like QOTSA to me, and not proper hard rocking QOTSA, the more recent sort of sound like lullabies to paralyse (sp?). Also, IMO his voice sounds quite a lot different. You can tell it's Homme but it seems really different to before. It's well produced and some riffs are good but it's a little boring. I'll give it another few goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Culture Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 The album gets a 4 star review in this month's 'Mojo'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass_In_Yer_Face Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think there are some really good tracks on the album it sounds a lot like Cream in places. I think Dave Grohl is awasome behind the drums, second only to Stewart Copeland in my list of drummers oh and maybe Jimmy Chamberlain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yeah, caught the TV show by accident. Not my kind of music, but had me lapping it up. Dunno about albums but as a live performance it was stunning. Loved the risky wee jam at the end too. What is JPJ? 63? Please gid let me be as cool as that at 60+ fatback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-basser Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Loving TCV at the moment, the album is a grower, wasn't sure at first but there's some great stuff in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Thought the gig was great and JPJ was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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