bubinga5 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 WOW..now this is a Marcus Miller jazz..never seen a CS go for this much..do they mean only 10 made..? this has got to be good!!! [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_marcus_miller_iv_master_built.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_marcus_mil...aster_built.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) [quote name='bubinga5' post='660347' date='Nov 20 2009, 05:14 PM']WOW..now this is a Marcus Miller jazz..never seen a CS go for this much..do they mean only 10 made..? this has got to be good!!! [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_marcus_miller_iv_master_built.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_marcus_mil...aster_built.htm[/url][/quote] IIRC there are two categories of Fender Custom Shop stuff. Team built and Master built. The latter is individually handmade by one of Fenders "Master" luthiers. So this will be one of 10 handbuilt Custom Shop pieces - hence the eyewatering price. Whether its worth more than four times a normal Marcus Miller is another matter..... Edited November 20, 2009 by simon1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='bubinga5' post='660347' date='Nov 20 2009, 05:14 PM']WOW..now this is a Marcus Miller jazz..never seen a CS go for this much..do they mean only 10 made..? [b]this has got to be good!!![/b][/quote] Mmm. It's a Fender so that's not a given, even at this price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 i wonder how good a jazz bass mr shuker or some other respected luthier would be able to make for that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='LukeFRC' post='660383' date='Nov 20 2009, 05:35 PM']....i wonder how good a jazz bass mr shuker or some other respected luthier would be able to make for that much?....[/quote] The real question is how many?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='LukeFRC' post='660383' date='Nov 20 2009, 05:35 PM']i wonder how good a jazz bass mr shuker or some other respected luthier would be able to make for that much?[/quote]Yeah that would be special... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Don't forget to add the cost of upgrading the preamp to the proper one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I've only ever tried a standard MM jazz, made in Mexico, amd I have to admit to being very disappointed. I think the preamp isn't great. Would this bass have a Sadowsky preamp at that price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Do they do MIM Millers? I thought they were American or Japanese, never really paid them much attention. To be fair to the custom shop/masterbuilt Fenders, I think part of the glory of owning one of them is that you own an almost one off piece by a company that largely deals in hundreds of thousands of units. Luthiers like Shuker etc are renowned for one off pieces, so that almost devalues it, if you get my meaning. This is of course a very steep price for ANY bass imo, when I was looking at Custom Shops, I was looking at prices that equated to just over a quarter of this MM, and although I'm a massive Fender fan, I don't believe they've ever made a decent preamp. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleblob Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Wow, that's expensive ! It must be due to the exotic woods used - umm no, Ash and maple. Must be the 24 carat gold h/w, umm no. The pre-amp, umm no. Well I'm stumped, do I get Marcus Miller with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecowboy Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='purpleblob' post='660497' date='Nov 20 2009, 07:53 PM']Wow, that's expensive ! It must be due to the exotic woods used - umm no, Ash and maple. Must be the 24 carat gold h/w, umm no. The pre-amp, umm no. Well I'm stumped, do I get Marcus Miller with it ? [/quote] hmmm maybe its built by Marcus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='LukeFRC' post='660383' date='Nov 20 2009, 05:35 PM']i wonder how good a jazz bass mr shuker or some other respected luthier would be able to make for that much?[/quote] Problem is that the best bass that a very good/brilliant luthier could make would still cost a lot less than this and they'd not be able to justify a higher price tag. HOWEVER because this 'is' Fender Masterbuild then they can charge wtf they like. Truth be told Fender couldn't possibly justify that price tag for the component parts, even inc' the wages for a Master [s]Screwer-together[/s] I mean builder. but as long as there is demand there will be supply at these prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I have decided that until I actually get in a decent law firm, basses over the £1800 retail price are out...and tbh..id much rather own 3-4 £1000 basses compared to 1 £4000 bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='660514' date='Nov 20 2009, 08:07 PM']HOWEVER because this 'is' Fender Masterbuild then they can charge wtf they like. Truth be told Fender couldn't possibly justify that price tag for the component parts, even inc' the wages for a Master [s]Screwer-together[/s] I mean builder. [/quote] Surely this also includes similar 'builders' such as Lakland that, although using great woods, are just mass produced bodies being 'screwed together' And if we assume that master builders at Fender are making the basses by hand then 'screwing them together', then guys like Coppola are charging the same amount of money for the same prank . Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platypus Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) If I was after a Marcus Miller sound and prepared to spend big bucks, I'd still go for the bass I posted about here: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=67526&st=0&p=655529&#entry655529"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...mp;#entry655529[/url] Its a Celinder J5 Miller Tribute Edited November 20, 2009 by Platypus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='Sibob' post='660522' date='Nov 20 2009, 08:29 PM']Surely this also includes similar 'builders' such as Lakland that, although using great woods, are just mass produced bodies being 'screwed together' And if we assume that master builders at Fender are making the basses by hand then 'screwing them together', then guys like Coppola are charging the same amount of money for the same prank . Si[/quote] Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Would it add insult to injury if I were to point out that the original bass upon which this is based is just a (modified) off the peg 1976 (?) MIA Jazz IIRC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If I had the cash spare..... and wasn't in bass exile I'd buy it tomorrow !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 But you are still in exile, so stop sniffing aroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='steve-soar' post='660592' date='Nov 20 2009, 10:08 PM']But you are still in exile, so stop sniffing aroud. [/quote] lol..... getting itchy feet err.... I mean fingers !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Do you know Greg Hannah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Youch. From what I know the Masterbuilt ones ARE completely handmand as far as possible, I think the only things pre-made are the bridge and tuners etc. Pups are handwound if the Fender website is to be believed. Obviously built using the best cuts of wood they can find etc.. However, is it £4600 good for what is essentially a standard Jazz with a modified scratchplate and a preamp chucked in...No. Not when you consider even the most expensive individual luthiers would probably be able to put one out for £1500-£2000 methinks. The Fender name on the headstock isn't worth £2000, not as a player's bass. I think these really are collectors basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 [quote name='Marcus' post='660598' date='Nov 20 2009, 10:16 PM']lol..... getting itchy feet err.... I mean fingers !!![/quote] Be gone foul beast, the end of thy exile is yet 6 months hence... how's the tennis coming along by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngh Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'd want the Fender masterbuilder to build the bl**dy thing in my living room before my very eyes for that price. Lets face it, down at the Dog and Duck on a Saturday night with all the bladdered punters shouting and balling over the band you would never be able to tell the difference in sound between this one and a stock MM Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 [quote name='Johngh' post='660677' date='Nov 21 2009, 12:06 AM']Lets face it, down at the Dog and Duck on a Saturday night with all the bladdered punters shouting and balling over the band you would never be able to tell the difference in sound between this one and a stock MM Jazz.[/quote] Lets be honest most of the punters down the local couldn't tell the difference (audible or visual) between a Fender and a Gibson, never mind a Masterbuild and an off the shelf MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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