Burns-bass Posted yesterday at 08:46 Posted yesterday at 08:46 5 minutes ago, Beedster said: Good for you mate, I read into that a need to hep other people, a great ambition and a great profession 👍 It's really interesting so far. I've volunteered for years with Age Concern and it's an extension of that. I just think that there has to be more to life than chasing ever diminishing amounts of cash. And being in bands is probably the best thing in the world for learning how to deal with conflict, awkward characters and trauma! 3 Quote
Beedster Posted yesterday at 09:19 Posted yesterday at 09:19 30 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: And being in bands is probably the best thing in the world for learning how to deal with conflict, awkward characters and trauma! Worth rewatching Some Kind of Monster to realise that band issues are often beyond even the best psychologists! All joking aside, don't ever become the band's therapist, you will end up hating them all Quote
TimR Posted yesterday at 11:13 Posted yesterday at 11:13 (edited) 13 hours ago, Dood said: Yup, no one is interested in actual bass content. This thread alone has over 28k views and nearly 400 comments. Figures i can only dream of on my no-ego, no-bs, no-bait content. It’s depressing, this, is depressing. I actually went on to social media bass groups of over 100K users to ask that folk watch my 1 minute video, and to date, I’ve managed 88 fcking likes. Eighty-eight? Because no one cares about real content or supporting actual musicians. Then everyone complains that another band has split or another venue has shut down. Frankly I might just be the next person to give up altogether, hard work isn’t rewarded, sensationalism and click-bait bs is it seems. But what is new and exciting about your music, what suspense and reward does it give? Even as a bass player 'actual bass content' doesn't interest me. I have a bass, I can create my own content easily. Humans need that dopamine hit - the hit you only get when you've been looking for something and finally find something that is better than you expected. It's tied into foraging and hunting for survival - it's never going away and can't be beat. All the Social Media giants have understood this for a long time. Basschat is no different, you post, you read, you're looking for something interesting, some new angle. Once you've read all the 4ohms or flatwound, P vs Jazz posts you'd drift away and Basschat then loses ad revenue and membership fees. This thread is about new phenomena and something interesting to analyse and debate. I'm not even sure I haven't posted the above already in this very thread. So unless you have new and exciting content, and it's not giving that promise of suspense in the first 3 seconds, people will scroll on by. Edited yesterday at 11:16 by TimR 1 Quote
Dad3353 Posted yesterday at 11:20 Posted yesterday at 11:20 6 minutes ago, TimR said: ... So unless you have new and exciting content, and it's not giving that promise of suspense in the first 3 seconds, people will scroll on by. Ooo look..! A bee..! Quote
Burns-bass Posted yesterday at 11:34 Posted yesterday at 11:34 2 hours ago, Beedster said: Worth rewatching Some Kind of Monster to realise that band issues are often beyond even the best psychologists! All joking aside, don't ever become the band's therapist, you will end up hating them all I love that film. Forgot what it was called! I don’t think I’ll ever work with people in the creative industries. I’m more interested in CBT stuff I think. I’ve certainly benefitted from that. Quote
TimR Posted yesterday at 11:45 Posted yesterday at 11:45 18 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Ooo look..! A bee..! In the past, people who were easily distracted and couldn't focus on one thing died. Modern society means we don't get that dopamine hit, we just wander down the corner shop and buy a pint of cold milk. No anticipation, no reward for being patient and searching, or raising your own cow. As a result people are bored, have too much time on their hands either because they're waiting for or sitting on a bus etc. In the past this time would be filled by reading a book or a newspaper. Now you're flooded with a million books and newspapers, all in your pocket. Which one should you read? 1 Quote
Beedster Posted yesterday at 11:58 Posted yesterday at 11:58 20 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: I love that film. Forgot what it was called! I don’t think I’ll ever work with people in the creative industries. I’m more interested in CBT stuff I think. I’ve certainly benefitted from that. Funnily enough a lot of creatives benefit far more from the formulaic CBT-type stuff than from some of the more esoteric forms, the contrast with what is often their habitual way of dealing with things - existential versus pragmatic - can be transformative Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted yesterday at 13:16 Posted yesterday at 13:16 15 hours ago, Dood said: Yup, no one is interested in actual bass content. This thread alone has over 28k views and nearly 400 comments. Figures i can only dream of on my no-ego, no-bs, no-bait content. It’s depressing, this, is depressing. I actually went on to social media bass groups of over 100K users to ask that folk watch my 1 minute video, and to date, I’ve managed 88 fcking likes. Eighty-eight? Because no one cares about real content or supporting actual musicians. Then everyone complains that another band has split or another venue has shut down. Frankly I might just be the next person to give up altogether, hard work isn’t rewarded, sensationalism and click-bait bs is it seems. Creators are pushed towards long form content. I want concise information most of the time, I bale if a longer video can't get to the point. I find Rick Beato good at keeping me engaged because he fits in content not filler. Quote
Dad3353 Posted yesterday at 13:19 Posted yesterday at 13:19 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: Creators are pushed towards long form content. I want concise information most of the time, I bale if a longer video can't get to the point. I find Rick Beato good at keeping me engaged because he fits in content not filler. I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that advertising revenue only kicks in once a video has been viewed for 'x' minutes, so folk clicking, then closing, would earn nothing. I may be wrong, but that would explain why the videos have to keep viewers interested, at least for 'x' minutes. Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted yesterday at 13:29 Posted yesterday at 13:29 9 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that advertising revenue only kicks in once a video has been viewed for 'x' minutes, so folk clicking, then closing, would earn nothing. I may be wrong, but that would explain why the videos have to keep viewers interested, at least for 'x' minutes. Usually by dancing around the actual content offered by the clickbait title for the first x-1 minutes of the video. 1 Quote
TimR Posted yesterday at 13:46 Posted yesterday at 13:46 22 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Creators are pushed towards long form content. I want concise information most of the time, I bale if a longer video can't get to the point. I find Rick Beato good at keeping me engaged because he fits in content not filler. Beato is engaging. Not many people can do that naturally. The 3 presenters on SBL are engaging. Also Mark Lewis is very good. All of them have 3rd party producers. It wouldn't surprise me if Danny has a producer too. Certainly a lot of the clips use a cameraman. These are people who make sure every word they say is important to the subject and relevant. That's very hard to do. I've tried it and from maybe an hour of content you can eaily lose a ton a useless material and trim it down to 5 minutes. And mostly need to then go out again and re-record a shorter better scripted version. I don't think a lot of YouTube creators have a producer who can criticality assess and cut out the waffle. 1 Quote
BigRedX Posted yesterday at 14:07 Posted yesterday at 14:07 IMO at least half of all YouTube content creators could do with a script, a producer, an editor, and possibly someone less irritating to actually appear in front of the camera. 3 Quote
HeadlessBassist Posted yesterday at 14:16 Posted yesterday at 14:16 "I'm sorry - Is this the five minute argument, or the full half hour..?" Quote
Count Bassy Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, HeadlessBassist said: "I'm sorry - Is this the five minute argument, or the full half hour..?" It has to be at least 30 minutes to earn any money! 2 Quote
Reggaebass Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago On 20/10/2025 at 16:29, Wolverinebass said: In fact, Sapko, Davie504, Charles Berthoud and Scott Devine are the 4 megabell horsemen of the apocalypse as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely agree with you there, I can’t watch anything by any of them😬, but , and there is a but , I thought Scott’s interviews with Sean Hurley and Freddie Washington were great, I wouldn’t watch anything else though Quote
Burns-bass Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Reggaebass said: Absolutely agree with you there, I can’t watch anything by any of them😬, but , and there is a but , I thought Scott’s interviews with Sean Hurley and Freddie Washington were great, I wouldn’t watch anything else though I think in real life they’re probably all funny and engaging, like all bass players. Alas, the characters they’ve created are awful… 1 Quote
Dood Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Interesting responses. I need a producer, script writer, editor, more exploding helicopters, click-bait titles, dancing girls, an act, an accent, a side-kick, lots of exciting, never before heard news, a ton of great content in one video, but nothing longer than the attention span of a gnat. But also none of those things. Got it 😂🤣😂😂🤣 1 Quote
TimR Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Dood said: Interesting responses. I need a producer, script writer, editor, more exploding helicopters, click-bait titles, dancing girls, an act, an accent, a side-kick, lots of exciting, never before heard news, a ton of great content in one video, but nothing longer than the attention span of a gnat. But also none of those things. Got it 😂🤣😂😂🤣 Being a YouTube creator is just like any other business. If you are in it to make money you need to be competetive and professional. For those of us who are just having fun and putting stuff out for family and freinds then you can afford to be artistic and creative, but don't be surprised if its only family and friends who follow and watch. I have 2 videos with nearly 3k views. Everything else is below 120. Those 2 have tags and are demonstration videos on how to fix a broken dishwasher and how to use something I bought from B&Q that had useless instructions, I linked it in the B&Q product review. Edited 10 hours ago by TimR Quote
Woodinblack Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimR said: Being a YouTube creator is just like any other business. If you are in it to make money you need to be competetive and professional. In other words hes saying the dancing girls aren't going to hurt Quote
tauzero Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: Somehow this has 8.4kv* *kiloviews. What idiot would put up a video which mostly consists of shoving a piece of wood around behind the 3D object in question? <looks on YouTube and checks poster's name> Oh. 1 Quote
dave_bass5 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 20 hours ago, BigRedX said: IMO at least half of all YouTube content creators could do with ....... .......being shut or ignored. Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago 6 hours ago, tauzero said: What idiot would put up a video which mostly consists of shoving a piece of wood around behind the 3D object in question? <looks on YouTube and checks poster's name> Oh. It was an experiment to see if a clickbait title for a meh video would get hits... it did! Quote
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