Rush.

[Misdee]

27 minutes ago, prowla said:

 

Was it me saying "I really don't think the drummer's gender is at all relevant" that made you think what I meant was that I "don't feel the drummers gender is relevant"?

Regarding evidence/facts, what evidence/facts do you have that it was a factor, that they deliberately chose a woman so that any criticisms could be dismissed as mysogyny, and that they've prepared a narrative for that?

That contrivance is baloney and insinuating reverse-mysogyny.

As for forbidding anything - I'm not a mod.

 Again,  stillI don't really know what reverse  misogyny is or how I would be involved. 

 

I never said it was a fact that they had chosen a female drummer to divert comparisons with Peart, I  explicitly said I didn't know. I just said it was very significant that they had, and that would be the effect.

 

They have created a narrative of how and why they chose her. I was reading it this afternoon. And as with any narrative, what's left out can be as important as what's included.

[Dad3353]

[prowla]

41 minutes ago, Misdee said:

 Again,  stillI don't really know what reverse  misogyny is or how I would be involved. 

 

I never said it was a fact that they had chosen a female drummer to divert comparisons with Peart, I  explicitly said I didn't know. I just said it was very significant that they had, and that would be the effect.

 

They have created a narrative of how and why they chose her. I was reading it this afternoon. And as with any narrative, what's left out can be as important as what's included.

“They” 🙂

[Misdee]

5 minutes ago, prowla said:

“They” 🙂

Your right, it's a conspiracy.

[dmccombe7]

TBH i'd never heard of her but watching some youtube clips i can see why Geddy and Alex picked her. She has a wonderfully accurate style of playing. Not pure power but precise and just some really nice playing. 

I guess they had their choice of many many drummers out there but they need to feel comfortable with whoever fills that spot and i reckon she will do a brilliant job. I've always been a huge fan of Neil's playing since first hearing them in 76 with 2112 but Neil changed his technique and for me Anika sounds very like him.

This should be a great tour. I probably wont go as i just hate concerts these days with people yapping all around me to the point you can't hear the band. Bring back the days when people at concerts were there to see and hear the band and not the latest gossip from their pals.

Thats my hissy fit for tonight. 😂

Dave 

[Woodinblack]

I think it is a good choice, she was recommended to them by someone they trusted, she can clearly do the job and more importantly, although she is known, she isn't a 'name' like Portnoy or Grohl that everyone already has fixed ideas on.

[Stub Mandrel]

Why the hell would Geddy and Alex give a flying f*** about anyone's 'concerns'?

 

They have nothing to prove, and unsurprisingly have a desire to perform the music they created. They've found a drummer who appears to have no problems with the level of technical ability required.

 

It's going to be entirely down to individuals whether they go to the gigs or not.

 

Betdt of luck to them. If tickets are reasonably priced, I may go along, I haven't seen Rush since May 1983.

[Woodinblack]

7 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Betdt of luck to them. If tickets are reasonably priced, I may go along, I haven't seen Rush since May 1983.

 

Probably best not then, just remember them then - I haven't been since 87, which is why I didn't go to the last tour.

[TimR]

I saw them in Birmingham on the Clockwork Angels tour. 

 

They were brilliant.

 

I also saw Iron Maiden this Summer in London with their new drummer. It was live music, their new drummer lost time and dropped beats and all three guitarists were making mistakes all over the place, Bruce's voice is a little bit tired but the show was awesome.

 

[Misdee]

The last time I saw Rush was in Sacramento on the Counterparts tour. They were flawless but a bit detached.  Seemed like to them it was just another gig to notch off the schedule, which I suppose is understandable.

 

Anyhow, What's for certain is that Anika Niles will now be the most Googled drummer in the world! The more I see her play the more I think she's a good fit for Rush.

[Thor]

2 hours ago, TimR said:

I saw them in Birmingham on the Clockwork Angels tour. 

 

They were brilliant.

 

 

I was at that show, my mate managed to get front row tickets right in front of Geddy - bloody marvellous they were.

 

[RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE]

I too saw rush on the clockwork angels tour ..at London o2!  Great of course …but my friend who managed to purchase the tkts didn’t pay for the more expensive ones.🤦‍♂️

This meant half of the orchestra accommodating them were basically invisible . 😮‍💨

Edited 23 hours ago by RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE

[prowla]

5 minutes ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said:

I too saw rush on the clockwork angels tour ..at London o2!  Great of course …but my friend who managed to purchase the tkts didn’t pay for the more expensive ones.🤦‍♂️

This meant half of the orchestra accommodating them were basically invisible . 😮‍💨

I went too; watched from a company box which was miles away from the stage.

There was food & drink though.

[toneknob]

Not bad going seeing as tickets aren't even on sale yet 

 

[ambient]

I figure it’s their band, their music and their choice who plays it.. so it's completely irrelevant what the public thinks.

 

I love that they’re doing what they want to, and if people like it too then great, but they certainly aren't doing it just to please others, or to get public approval. 

 

I saw them with my brother on the Roll the Bones tour. We were three rows from the front at the NEC. We are both going to go and see them next year, assuming they do UK shows.

[Musicman666]

first caught them at hammy odeon, farewell to kings tour ..then hemispheres followed by permanent waves ...then over to wembley arena for moving pictures ...started getting into more 80s style bands after that ...rush were really a 70s band in my mind, 80s never really suited their style.

[hiram.k.hackenbacker]

2 hours ago, Musicman666 said:

first caught them at hammy odeon, farewell to kings tour ..then hemispheres followed by permanent waves ...then over to wembley arena for moving pictures ...started getting into more 80s style bands after that ...rush were really a 70s band in my mind, 80s never really suited their style.

The irony being I guess that they released more albums in the 80’s than they did in the 70’s , whether it suited their style or not.

There’s only one album that I don’t completely gel with for some reason and that’s Caress of Steel. I just find The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lambeth a difficult listen. I’m fully on board with the rest of the catalogue, including the wonderful 80’s. I remember the first time I heard Distant Early Warning - a perfect blend of Rush and 80’s synth sounds. Power Windows is probably the weakest of the 80’s albums for me, but I still enjoy it. 

[prowla]

2 hours ago, Musicman666 said:

first caught them at hammy odeon, farewell to kings tour ..then hemispheres followed by permanent waves ...then over to wembley arena for moving pictures ...started getting into more 80s style bands after that ...rush were really a 70s band in my mind, 80s never really suited their style.

I thought they just played music, regardless of the decade.

(Some of their fashion sense and hairdos were always a bit dodgey though.)

[Misdee]

I always felt about Rush that from the mid-'80's onwards their songs and arrangements got progressively worse to the extent that they were making albums that were mainly dense,dreary and very hard to listen to.  Musically, their best albums were busy but still with space and contrasting textures. Geddy's keyboard playing contributed a lot to that, I think.

.

Like so many bands, as they aged it became find that elusive thing that made the songs interesting in their earlier days. It's to Rush's credit that they experimented and tried to stay current, but at a certain point it wasn't working but they kept doing it anyway because they couldn't think of anything else to do 

[Misdee]

2 hours ago, Musicman666 said:

first caught them at hammy odeon, farewell to kings tour ..then hemispheres followed by permanent waves ...then over to wembley arena for moving pictures ...started getting into more 80s style bands after that ...rush were really a 70s band in my mind, 80s never really suited their style.

I first saw them live on the Permanent Waves tour in 1980.

 

I remember my older brother's friends going to their gig at Sheffield City Hall on the Farewell To Kings tour, and that was their first ever UK performance. I also remember my school friends going to the  one-off show at Stafford New Bingley Hall in the autumn of 1979, also now a legendary gig.

 

Rush were a special band in those days, they had a certain mystique that probably couldn't exist nowadays in the post-internet age of unbridled access. That was their golden age.

[visog]

Permanent Waves tour my first Rush concert too! Deeside Leisure Centre for me. (Or as Geddy pronounced it, 'Leezure'. To be fair, back them we called him, 'Jeddy'.)

[TimR]

1 hour ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

Power Windows is probably the weakest of the 80’s albums for me,

 

It's weird isn't it.

 

Moving Pictures and Power Windows are probably my 2 favourite albums. 

 

Moving Pictures being technically an 80s album and probably in the top 10 (if not number 1) of every Rush fan. 

 

 

[Woodinblack]

I love everything until hold your fire (which was the last tour of theirs I saw), after which I went off in a different direction to them. It seemed every subsequent album was weaker, but that maybe just because I didn't listen to them to death like the previous one. For me Power Windows was one of the very good ones. There aren't any before hold your fire (maybe even including) that I wouldn't sit and listen to the whole album.

[Misdee]

Everyone is entitled to their own favourites, that's great, but what strikes me when I listen even to the older Rush albums is that right from when Neil Peart joined the band everything was there in place even then.

 

If you listen to Fly By Night they're already three individually brilliant musicians who combine to make a whole even greater than the sum of those parts. The opening track, Anthem, is a tour de force that lets the world know something special is happening here so pay attention. Not many bands can play like that, then or now.