Jenny_Innie Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm thinking of finally getting my own rig. I've got a TC Electronic RH450 but I don't have a cab yet. I played few numbers at my Dad's soundcheck at the weekend. His sound guy lent me a Barefaced 1x15 - Compact I think? I'm sure it was a 15" speaker and there was no tweeter. It said Barefaced on it and looked like a lump of coal. It sounded great with the RH450 on my own, but I couldn't pick out the individual notes I was playing that well when the drums, guitarist and vocals were added. It was really loud - didn't need more than 1/3 way round the dial (and I like to play loud and punchy). It pulverised the room, good-style, but no matter how I twiddled, I couldn't get the clarity I wanted. I switched after a couple of songs to the bass guy's 4x10 Ashdown (still with the RH450) and it was much better. Not as loud for any given setting - had to use 1/2 the amp's power rather than a third. I think they were both 8 Ohm things. I could hear all of the notes more clearly. Trouble is, the Barefaced was light. I could carry it. The Ashdown .... no chance. I need to look at light things. Maybe a Barefaced with a tweeter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='Jenny_Innie' timestamp='1415622709' post='2602017'] (...) I need to look at light things. Maybe a Barefaced with a tweeter? [/quote] If you liked the weight and power handling i would say it's a possibility. Maybe a Big Baby 2 model. The tweeter will definetly add the clarity you lacked in that occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 A Barefaced with a tweeter, or their new Super Compact which is a 1x12. I have two of those and they are fantastic cabs Also depends on budget of course, there are other lightwight cabs available Whereabouts are you based? There's bound to be someone with something you could try out living relatively close by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I found the same problem when using the mark bass little Rocker with the Super 12T But it seems ok with the Ashdown Head ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1415631209' post='2602134'] ........ But it seems ok with the Ashdown Head ? ..... [/quote] I didn't use an Ashdown head. The bass guy uses an ABM 900 thing into two separate Ashdown 4x10 cabs. I plugged my RH450 into one of them. Sounded real good ...... but I couldn't even move it an inch never mind pick it up and carry it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 IME the barefaced cabs are more suited to a full old school sound, many pair them with a streamliner for P bass through an SVT like tone. They are great if you are looking for that kind of sound but they are not the last word in lightweight cabs. If your looking for a light cab that delivers a punchy, deep and clear tone I'd maybe look at GK neo cabs? it depends on your budget obviously? There are even better options at the very top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Yes, Barefaced are good and offer a number of options that may (or may not) suit your needs. GK neo have already been mentioned, and there are others - such as Bergantino (if you have very deep pockets), Purple Chili, Markbass, Genz Benz and TKS (to name a few off the top of my head!). The TKS cabs are very popular on here at the moment, and there are plenty of people who own them or have tried them. But - you may find that your amp might not partner so well with some of the above manufacturers. The RH450 was extremely popular among BC members a few years ago, but a lot of users subsequently sold their amps on as they weren't happy with the sound they produced. It's a minefield! Edited November 10, 2014 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Dfinately look at a cab - or cabs - with tweeters. I say cabs as two 112s is a good option, lightweight, yet ends up quite tall when stacked vertically, making hearing yourself easier. Though a Barefaced with the tweeter is a very good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 No definition? I'd look at the way you've eq'ed the amp. I've played my Thunderfunk through 1 and 2 gen2 Compacts and IME you get out what you put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1415634258' post='2602200'] But - you may find that your amp might not partner so well with some of the above manufacturers. The RH450 was extremely popular among BC members a few years ago, but a lot of users subsequently sold their amps on as they weren't happy with the sound they produced. It's a minefield! [/quote] Yup, I'd consider a GK head, maybe the MB Fusion as (IMO) it's the dogs danglies of lightwight amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1415634704' post='2602207'] No definition? I'd look at the way you've eq'ed the amp. I've played my Thunderfunk through 1 and 2 gen2 Compacts and IME you get out what you put in. [/quote] Well, I had a sound engineer on the case for me for 20 mins or so. He tours all over the UK and Europe with that band and others. The main bass player uses in ears so it's no so much of an issue. He reckoned I should get one with a tweeter - or use two, one on top of the other, to bring the sound up to my ears. Maybe I should get one of those little ones to put on top? I'm not changing the amp - sounds great through everything else I put it through. I have been taking it to rehearsal rooms all over the place with different cabs of all kinds. Allows me to get a sound quite quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thinking about it Jennie, I had a Compact and it was too warm/mellow for me on its own as well, I needed a Midget to get some snap into the sound - and would have probably been better with a Midget T. So as the Compact was loud enough for you, maybe as Ghost Bass recommends, the Big Baby 2 - should have plenty enough definition in that. The good thing about Barefaced is that you can get the cab on a months trial, use it, if you`re not satisfied return it. Not many companies do that, and Alex is a great guy to deal with - probably your best bet of going down the BF route is contact him direct. His customer service is second to none, and he recommends the products that are best for the customer, not the most expensive ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If you want a full sound with clarity that is easily on a par with the SL112 from Aguilar and Bergantino CN112 which are pretty much the benckmark 12's to a lot of people or at least me, yet you want a lightweight box which they all are, then the TKS S112 is the one for you to check out. All the 12' cabs I've tried have needed a tweeter and even then the cross-over point can be an issue. The TKS112 is very clear in the hi mid with the single 12 working hard enough that a lot of people wouldn't even need a horn...and therefore you don't have that hole that 12's and horn cabs might have. The box is compact and as light as the NEO Bergs and Aguilars. And considering how well they compete with those two makers, IMO.. the much lower price makes them very attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Another vote for Bergantino here. Either the CN112 (1x12) or the CN212 (2x12) I love them - and they seem to work with a variety of amps. I have 3 very different sounding amps and the Berg cabs play nice with them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1415644359' post='2602346'] ...... the TKS S112 is the one for you to check out. ....... [/quote] They are very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='Jenny_Innie' timestamp='1415651464' post='2602442'] They are very pretty. [/quote] And light, well built and sound incredible ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 [quote name='Jenny_Innie' timestamp='1415651464' post='2602442'] They are very pretty. [/quote] That is a bonus then because in my recent demo..which I've posted here, it had the best and nicest/smooth mid range of the boxes I tried. This is the key to clarity and defintion...and they are also light. I am pretty sure I could get the CN112 and SL112 working as well if I EQ'd the amp a tad.. You can hear all 3 cabs are very well voiced so you'll not need to work hard to get great sounds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The older Barefaced Midgets with tweeter should fit your bill. I think they use a superior and more expensive speaker to all the 12" cabs mentioned above (Although I could be wrong, no doubt someone who knows better will correct me?) plus they are probably the smallest and lightest and might even be the loudest. Sound-wise - that's up to you to decide but they are getting a lot cheaper used now that they have been superceded by the newer model. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky8884 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 There are Schroeder cabs , http://www.schroedercabinets.com Light weight and a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If you have the budget for Barefaced I'd also check out Vanderklay cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 [quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1415698133' post='2602706'] If you have the budget for Barefaced I'd also check out Vanderklay cabs. [/quote] Those are heavier. You'd have to be 5'2" and under 8st to understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) To be honest if weight is your primary concern at the expense of everything else then you probably are better off with a barefaced. Edited November 11, 2014 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1415704840' post='2602794'] ".....at the expense of everything else ....." [/quote] Hmmmm. Did I say that? It's a factor. Don't go getting all upset if I don't agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Have you tried a MarkBass cab? I say try, as some folk love them & some don't. They're certaintly light & loud & I think they sound fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm still very happy with my Super12T. 19Kg with a power handling of 1000W+ and up to date is the most honest sounding cab i've ever tried. Great tight lows, natural clear and balanced mid range (not scooped and definetly no spikes) and highs that won't hurt my ears. Haven't found a lighter 2x12" with an output that comes close. These cabs have popped in the FS section on the forum in the £500-£600 price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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