rjb Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Was just wondering about what seems to be a recent trend towards asking for PM offers in the "For Sale" section. I can certainly understand sellers wanting to get the maximum possible for their gear, but doesn't this practice risk turning the the "For Sale" section into more of a "Sealed-bid Auctions" area? I have no particular axe to grind, but I'd love to hear everyone's views.... Edited September 8, 2009 by rjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 my warwick is for sale. untill i asked clever people I didn't know how much for, if someone had PM'ed me with an offer before i fixed a price I liked then they would have got it. That offer may have been more than the price I fixed or it could have been less. Or someone may have wanted to say "well i have a X bass and can also add £Y" if you want. I could have said, yes please! or maybe 'thanks but no thanks' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] Oh dear..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] Expect a PM re: Baiting. I am upping your warning level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tait Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) here we go again Edited September 8, 2009 by Tait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It bugs me but I usually just send a PM asking what price they're after- if they can't give one I'll usually be on my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_the_bassist Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have to admit, I'd rather someone put a ballpark figure and ask for 'offers around £x' so I know whether it's in my price-range, whether I've got appropriate stuff to offer as a p/x +cash etc etc. but other than that, if that's the way someone wants to sell it then so be it! *settles in to watch this thread unravel * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='phil_the_bassist' post='593215' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:45 PM']I have to admit, I'd rather someone put a ballpark figure and ask for 'offers around £x' so I know whether it's in my price-range, whether I've got appropriate stuff to offer as a p/x +cash etc etc. but other than that, if that's the way someone wants to sell it then so be it! *settles in to watch this thread unravel *[/quote] +1 Asking for offers kind of assumes that people have an idea of the value, and they're sitting waiting for an example of the bass to come up. That might be the case sometimes, but I'd imagine a lot of people are just looking for a decent bass that appeals to them within their budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjb Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Uh oh, so this has cropped up before, then? If this thread is going to get nasty then I won't argue if it gets nuked... Edited September 8, 2009 by rjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 i have never made an offer on an item for sale without the seller giving me an indication of what he/she is looking for, and i have never sold an item to a buyer without letting them know what i am expecting. Pm's are of course fine for trade offers, but for cash offers its not what i like to get involved in, i go ebay for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='Musky' post='593223' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:53 PM']+1 Asking for offers kind of assumes that people have an idea of the value, and they're sitting waiting for an example of the bass to come up. That might be the case sometimes, but I'd imagine a lot of people are just looking for a decent bass that appeals to them within their budget.[/quote] problem is if the seller has no real idea of value either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Personally, I think if a seller wants to do that then it's fine. It might not help them sell it, mind you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golchen Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 No price and I'm not interested. People should just Man up and stick a tag on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 This did come up quite recently - over an eye-wateringly overpriced JV Precision. Realistically most common mid-range basses on here seem to sell for about £30 - £50 less than their corresponding Ebay prices. It's not too hard to work out a reasonable price for most things IMO. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxblues Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I also agree that putting a price up is the best way to go and it can be really frustrating when people don't. Talking of trends I also note a lot of newbies jumping into the sale section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaver Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I can never understand why this always ends in a dust up. It doesn't bother me which way people want to price or sell. The only reason against not putting a price on your sale is that you'll get a numbskull offer. And that offer will most likely come from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngh Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 If I sell a bass on here I always include a price. I agree with Deaver though that you will always get a totally unrealistic offer from some body. Nothing wrong with that I suppose as long as they can accept a very firm no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'd also never dream of making someone an offer without a rough idea of their hopes/expectations for the sale. If you have some kind of figure in mind then it's just easier for everyone if you put it out there as a guide. E.g. I'd like around £500 but offers are most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeat Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='Golchen' post='593273' date='Sep 8 2009, 08:51 PM']No price and I'm not interested. People should just Man up and stick a tag on it.[/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I just ignore ads where the seller knows what he wants but won't say what it is. I don't see the point in all this "PM me it's a secret" nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='593200' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:34 PM']The moderators actively encourage auctions so its definitely not against forum rules.[/quote] you'll need one of these soon........ [attachment=32489:200_hsas_chart.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well, there's no rule against offers, 'sort of' auctions, trades + cash with the required amount unspecified or, indeed, demands for sexual favours. Personally, I don't bother reading offers ads because I assume the seller will probably want more than I'm willing to pay. There's logic for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Please don't stop Shaun from posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 [quote name='steve-soar' post='593446' date='Sep 8 2009, 11:31 PM']Please don't stop Shaun from posting. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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