Misdee Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 4 hours ago, tauzero said: It works well within the context of U2, but would you describe him as a virtuoso? No not a virtuoso, but he makes the most of his abilities in a really musical way. Adam Clayton knows how to play to the strengths of the instrument, and that's something that can elude some very technically-able players. 1 Quote
Misdee Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, chris_b said: Greatest bass lines? Try those played by James Jamerson, Larry Graham, Bernard Edwards, Duck Dunn, Nathan East, Carol Kaye. . . . You can almost guarantee none of these players will be included! Great basslines can also be one-off phenomena, like Slave To The Rhythm by Grace Jones, played by Luis Jardim (RIP). You couldn't really point out much of a body of recorded work as a bass player for multi-instrumentalist Luis, but he was obviously a terrific player and that track alone must be one of the standout bass parts of the 1980's, and that was the decade of the standout bass part. Players like that will most likely be overlooked, as will session musicians who were guitar and bass doublers, like the late great Tommy Cogbill. But like I keep saying, I'll be watching avidly and enjoying whatever crumbs of comfort and inspiration this series has to offer. Bear in mind I regularly spend an hour or more watching brain dead British couples deciding if they want to sell their pre-war semi in Slough and move to Post-war semi in Swindon with a bigger garden and sufficient room to add an incontinence-themed extension ( pending planning permission). I'm sure I'll be glued to this bass fest. Edited 19 hours ago by Misdee 1 Quote
BigRedX Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I think if you weren't interested in music in 1979, then you probably won't appreciate just how ground breaking Peter Hook's bass playing was when Unknown Pleasures was released. By the early 80s most bass players who weren't playing fretless or slap were influence by his playing. He may only have one style and be a self-avowed non-musician but he's been massively influential for a whole generation of musicians. Mick Karn was had similar traits - single style, non musician - and is IMO equally influential, but he doesn't get anything like the same stick as Hooky. 5 Quote
SteveXFR Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I think bassists are the worst people to pick the three best bass lines as it'll most likely be some virtuoso nonsense like Joe Dart or Jaco Pistorious or some million note a second slapper. Here's my possibly terrible pics. Peaches - The Stranglers Rotten Apple - Alice In Chains Turnover - Fugazi 4 Quote
iainbass Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Its Sky Arts which I do like a lot, but which also means its producing content which is easily understood by everyone. This means there idea of a "Greatest bassline " will discuss work that the general public can easily understand.. ie something like Pink Floyds Money...or the Cures A Forest. Not necessarily clever in the bass sense but immediately recognisable as a very good ....'Bassline'. Quote
Linus27 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigRedX said: I think if you weren't interested in music in 1979, then you probably won't appreciate just how ground breaking Peter Hook's bass playing was when Unknown Pleasures was released. By the early 80s most bass players who weren't playing fretless or slap were influence by his playing. He may only have one style and be a self-avowed non-musician but he's been massively influential for a whole generation of musicians. Mick Karn was had similar traits - single style, non musician - and is IMO equally influential, but he doesn't get anything like the same stick as Hooky. I totally agree and he certainly influenced me a lot. His melodic approach and use of playing an open root note while playing a melody on another string is something I learnt from him and an integral part of my playing. 2 Quote
Bassybert Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveXFR said: I think bassists are the worst people to pick the three best bass lines as it'll most likely be some virtuoso nonsense like Joe Dart or Jaco Pistorious or some million note a second slapper. Here's my possibly terrible pics. Peaches - The Stranglers Rotten Apple - Alice In Chains Turnover - Fugazi Completely agree on the whole muso nonsense. But it’s got to be Waiting Room over Turnover surely! Edited 7 hours ago by Bassybert 1 Quote
edstraker123 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Give me Hooky's playing over virtuoso jazz widdling any day. Take Mark King, the absolute master of slap but produced some of the most insipid songs ever made. It truly is all about context. Looking forward to it though whoever is on. 3 Quote
BigRedX Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I hope that program makers also remember that some of the most memorable bass lines ever weren't written or played by bass guitarists - cf I Feel Love or Der Mussolini. 1 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 14 hours ago, Linus27 said: In terms of iconic bass lines to popular songs and who played them, then I think my choice of photos would be Paul McCartney (Ths Beatles), Sting (The Police) and maybe someone like Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) or John Deacon (Queen) or James Jamerson (Motown/Marvin Gaye) or someone from the Disco era (Bernard Edwards/Louis Johnson). If it was my choice then it would be Pino Palladino, John Giblin and Jaco, be all out fretless bass and have contributions from Paul Webb (Talk Talk), Derek Forbes (Simple Minds), Sting (The Police), Jeff Ament (Pearl Jam) and Tony Levin (Peter Gabriel) to name a few. Now that would be a show 😂 Much of the bass on later Pink Floyd songs was actually played by David Gilmour though, even on songs Water's wrote. As great a song writer Roger Waters might (have) be(en), he has somewhat degraded as a bass player. Edited 6 hours ago by Baloney Balderdash Quote
BigRedX Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 18 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: While not exactly virtuous levels of bass playing Krist Novoselic's play in Nirvana, unlike Adam Clayton from U2, consisted of far more than root notes, and he did quite a few lines that has become iconic, and are very melodic. Many of which were highly "influenced" by various post-punk songs. 1 Quote
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Didn’t Sky Arts produce a three part series on drummers that didn’t once mention Neil Peart? N.B. I haven’t seen it, but I was told this by a drummer who had. Quote
Leonard Smalls Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Won't be able to watch... Our transmitter is Freeview Light, which means no Sky Arts. Quote
SteveXFR Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, Bassybert said: But it’s got to be Waiting Room over Turnover surely! I see what you're saying but after listening to both, Turnover just beats Waiting Room. The main riff is so catchy and then there's that fast killer riff halfway through when it goes double time. Waiting Room only really has the one riff although it is excellent and its illegal to pick up a Stingray and not play it. Quote
Dankology Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) A bit shocked by the comments re Hooky above... I'm not a New Order fanatic by any means (I think I only own their original run of LPs) but the man essentially created the blueprint for the next two decades of indie (and a lot of rock and dance) bass playing and bass tones. Propulsive, melodic and often as hooky as the top line itself without being obtrusive - his best basslines are, for me, textbook examples of what the instrument should be doing in a pop song. Edited 2 hours ago by Dankology 3 Quote
cetera Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I know what the World's Greatest Basslines are.... and I can guarantee they won't be on this programme. 1 Quote
lowdown Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, cetera said: I know what the World's Greatest Basslines are.... and I can guarantee they won't be on this programme. Yep... 🤣 1 Quote
BigRedX Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago In the end it's all subjective so who cares? Make your own best bass lines playlist and enjoy it. 1 Quote
Woodinblack Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 28 minutes ago, cetera said: I know what the World's Greatest Basslines are.... and I can guarantee they won't be on this programme. Im pretty sure Good Times would be, as it is the most reused and sampled bassline! 1 Quote
Crusoe Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I can't believe no one has mentioned Andy Rourke yet. I was watching a video clip of the Smiths live, playing Barbarism Begins at Home and Johnny Marr set his guitar down so that he and Morrissey could dance to Andy's bass line. 1 Quote
SteveXFR Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, cetera said: I know what the World's Greatest Basslines are.... and I can guarantee they won't be on this programme. There are no greatest basslines. Its too subjective to decide the absolute best. Quote
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