AI music overtakes real band its modelled on

[SteveXFR]

https://www.loudersound.com/news/holding-absence-speak-out-ai-bleeding-verse-overtakes-spotify-listeners-2025

 

Rock band, Holding Absence have been overtaken in Spotify charts by an AI band who's music is modelled on theirs. 

This seems like a significant and very sad occurrence. The band works hard writing, recording and promoting their music and then someone uses their hard work to knock out an AI copy that makes more money at little to no cost.

[Cato]

There's going ro be an absolute deluge of these from people hoping that if they churn out enough AI slop they might get a few hits that make money.

 

It's already happening on social media, every 3rd Instagram clip seems to be an AI fake and it's getting really hard to spot them.

 

There's got to be a gap in the market for a streaming service that can guarantee no AI content.

[SteveXFR]

7 minutes ago, Cato said:

There's going ro be an absolute deluge of these from people hoping that if they churn out enough AI slop they might get a few hits that make money.

 

It's already happening on social media, every 3rd Instagram clip seems to be an AI fake and it's getting really hard to spot them.

 

There's got to be a gap in the market for a streaming service that can guarantee no AI content.

 

Id sign up for that streaming service and Id pay more for it.

AI music is a parasite. It feeds off real music while also killing it. 

[Marvin]

I absolutely hate AI. It's theft.

[Musicman666]

any bands that actually push their own envelopes and develop artistically thus challenging their fan base with each new release need not worry ... ai is like the formulaic approach ...no innovation, it gets boring pretty fast. 

[tegs07]

36 minutes ago, Cato said:

There's going ro be an absolute deluge of these from people hoping that if they churn out enough AI slop they might get a few hits that make money.

 

It's already happening on social media, every 3rd Instagram clip seems to be an AI fake and it's getting really hard to spot them.

 

There's got to be a gap in the market for a streaming service that can guarantee no AI content.

It seems that the solution is simple. Delete your social media accounts.

 

[SteveXFR]

2 minutes ago, tegs07 said:

It seems that the solution is simple. Delete your social media accounts.

 

 

More people are doing that now and AI is a common reason for leaving social media. People don't want fake videos and rip off music 

[tegs07]

2 minutes ago, SteveXFR said:

 

More people are doing that now and AI is a common reason for leaving social media. People don't want fake videos and rip off music 

I would like to think people are becoming more aware that these ‘free’ services are anything but free. 

[itu]

AI "music" is very clean down to perfection. There's no "fear" in the music anymore and it becomes muzak. If I could contaminate the material, I most probably would do it. 

[Al Krow]

Streamed music has already dealt a blow to most bands' hopes of making decent money from their original creations. AI assisted / generated music music is just the next nail in that coffin.

 

Live music is where it's at for most bands and solo artists looking to make a living from their art. Yes there's one hologram providing superb entertainment, at vast cost and albeit with some incredible session musicians actually playing the music, but an average punter going down a busy pub doing live music at the weekend ain't going to be fobbed off with anything but a live band or solo act.

 

What we all should be campaigning against is the ridiculous infringement of copyright laws that our Govt seems to be wanting to wave through for AI companies to train their large-language models on, and which is theft pure and simple.

Edited 16 hours ago by Al Krow

[tegs07]

Just now, Al Krow said:

Streamed music has already dealt a blow to most bands' hopes of making decent money from their original creations. AI assisted / generated music music is just the next nail in that coffin.

I have mixed feelings about streaming.  In the good old days I bought lots of physical music, bought the NME, had friends in bands and who went to loads of gigs and kept me in the loop. Now not so much. I use Spotify but the last 2 bands I saw live and the one I am going to see next I would never have heard about without Spotify. 

[Bolo]

2 hours ago, Cato said:

 

There's got to be a gap in the market for a streaming service that can guarantee no AI content.

*Deezer *

Edit: apologies, even Deezer can't stop uploaders from sneaking ai hidden in albums. They do tag it and encourage users to report ai.

https://support.deezer.com/hc/en-gb/articles/28222522835101-AI-Content-Tagging-on-Deezer

Edited 14 hours ago by Bolo

[Bolo]

2 hours ago, SteveXFR said:

Id sign up for that streaming service and Id pay more for it

Edit: Inaccurate statement by me, see above.

Edited 14 hours ago by Bolo

[BigRedX]

Before we all get worked up with our keyboard outrage, has anyone taken the time to actually listen to the two bands in question?

 

Holding Absence are rather formulaic bland modern pop-rock so it's really no surprise that AI has supposedly been able to replicate their "style" of music. I'd be interested to know just why Lucas Woodland has decided that Bleeding Verse are copying his band and not the countless other real bands doing the same kind of music with rock guitars, keyboards and alternating melodic and screamo vocals?

 

There's no real story there at all. I'm sure that Holding Absence have managed to get some more streams and maybe a few more fans, but it all smacks of publicity seeking to me.

 

[prowla]

14 hours ago, itu said:

AI "music" is very clean down to perfection. There's no "fear" in the music anymore and it becomes muzak. If I could contaminate the material, I most probably would do it. 

TBH, there's probably more human thought been put into the AI than some of the muzak/elevator music I've heard in my time.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by prowla

[Richard R]

I listen to Spotify to search out bands and find new artists but their business model stinks.

This is quite a good read - it does tend to repeat and rant a bit there is nonetheless some really interesting information. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mood-Machine-Spotify-Perfect-Playlist/dp/1399718843

 

Bandcamp is the best platform for artists to release music on. I listen to all sorts at work and have bought more than a dozen albums either as physical CD or FLAC now.

 

[neepheid]

Don't worry, The Inevitable Teaspoons are currently recording our second album, all by ourselves, in our RF hellhole of a rehearsal room, with whatever mics we can find and a Zoom R24, mixed by me who knows hee haw about mixing.  What could possibly go wrong?  But it will sound about as far from AI generated "perfection" as it's possible to be, and even though no effer will listen to it, it might poison the AI well a touch...

[BigRedX]

21 minutes ago, Richard R said:

Bandcamp is the best platform for artists to release music on. I listen to all sorts at work and have bought more than a dozen albums either as physical CD or FLAC now.

 

Unfortunately IME Bandcamp is a muso/indie ghetto. Fine if all you want to do is reach other musicians and a few hardcore music fans, but nearly useless for reaching ordinary people. The sort of people you need to reach if you want to really grow your fan base.