JosephMartyn Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Right...thinking of getting a small multi effects pedal to dial in a few tones. Ā Does anybody have experience with zoom pedals? Looks like a lot of pedal for the money! Where does the quality suffer? Quote
Geek99 Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I have a zoom b2.1u and whilst ancient it does everything I could possibly want and is fairly easy to use 1 Quote
stewblack Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 They are way better than their price point suggests. The B1-ON is where I started and I've used so many multi effects since, but I still have the B1-ON. Unlike many of their competitors there's no lag when changing patches, they have very useable synth sounds, an excellent tuner, run on batteries, a looper, drum patterns, aux in. Great for home practice and plenty good enough for live workĀ 1 Quote
Japhet Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Incredible value for money and I've had zero issues with build quality. I currently have the B3 and B1 Four. The B3 is much more user friendly in my experience but the B1 Four packs so much into a smaller footprint but is a bit tricky to work out how to programme it to start off. Buy with confidence in my opinion. 1 Quote
Rich Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I've got an old Zoom 509 that I've had for more years than I care to think about... I think I probably bought off Noah. It's all plastic and at first sight might appear flimsy, but I've gigged the hell out of it and use it at home a lot as a headphone amp. It's taken a licking and keeps on ticking, as they say. No qualms whatsoever about their build quality. I'm using an MS-60B now and it's built like a bomb shelter. I would sooner buy Zoom gear than Boss, quite honestly. Ā 1 Quote
PaulWarning Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I've had a Zoom B1on for about 5 years now, use it at all my gigs and practices, no issues at all 1 Quote
PaulThePlug Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Zoom B1on... loves it. So much so that i've had another of here for a mate, and another of here for my eldest's other half! Ā They don't realy work from a Stomp Box / Individual pedal perspective... more a collection (100 Patches!) of pre programmed 'sounds' each consisting of a variety (upto 5) chosen effects. Ā So build patches per vibe or song... name em and store em via Tonelib_Zoom. Ā B1Four is an eveloution of the B1on Edited October 25, 2022 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote
lemmywinks Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Spent a bit of time with the B1 Four and even though it's their bargain unit it didn't feel or sound like it. Felt much nicer than the 708 I used to have which to be fair never missed a beat and was still working perfectly when I sold it years ago. Ā They used to have a bit of an empty feel about them, plastics are better now IMO and they sound much more organic/convincing. Probably all a lot of people would really need tbh. 2 Quote
Al Krow Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, lemmywinks said: Spent a bit of time with the B1 Four and even though it's their bargain unit it didn't feel or sound like it. Felt much nicer than the 708 I used to have which to be fair never missed a beat and was still working perfectly when I sold it years ago. Ā They used to have a bit of an empty feel about them, plastics are better now IMO and they sound much more organic/convincing. Probably all a lot of people would really need tbh. Ā Another big fan of the B1-4. I gig it all the time - have one at the heart of my pedalboard, and another as a standalone pedal which provides all the fx I need for many gigs, plus a lit tuner which is great for dark stages.Ā Ā The free ToneLib software makes creating, editing and saving patches pretty intuitive. Ā Ridiculously good value for the money.Ā 2 Quote
abar121 Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I have a Zoom MS60B which I really like for modulation, delay, reverb and compression. Ā Decent pedal and a good starting point 1 Quote
JosephMartyn Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 Awesome info! Thanks folks! Looks like I'm going shopping š Ā To keep my motivation as I get back into playing, I'm thinking of keeping an online practice logĀ š¤Ā Feel free to join me on my journey! Any tips greatly appreciated! 1 Quote
abar121 Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Have a look at the free editor for effects for these models: G5n, G3Xn, G3n, B3n, G1on, G1Xon, B1on, B1Xon, MS-50g, MS-60b, MS-70CDR. Ā Gave my unit a 2nd wind and I was also able to put my favourite patches from the MS50G on there too. Ā https://www.tonelib.net/tonelib-zoom.html 2 Quote
lemmywinks Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Al Krow said: Ā Another big fan of the B1-4. I gig it all the time - have one at the heart of my pedalboard, and another as a standalone pedal which provides all the fx I need for many gigs, plus a lit tuner which is great for dark stages.Ā Ā The free ToneLib software makes creating, editing and saving patches pretty intuitive. Ā Ridiculously good value for the money.Ā Ā I'm probably gonna pick one up as a secondary/standalone practice device, it does too much in such a little box for me to not want one! 1 Quote
Trueno Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I think everyone should have a B1-4, whether they want one or not. Ā Iām more āset and forgetā myself, but I have two or three patches for practiceā¦ depends on what mood Iām in. I would def use for rehearsals or gigs, if I didnāt have my EBS Microbass pre-amp. Ā Crazy value for money. 1 Quote
Franticsmurf Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 I have a MS60b which sits on the board to provide me with the odd spot effect (currently delay, flange and a couple of specific EQ settings). In the event of a problem with one or more of the other pedals, or a lack of space (it has happened) it would give me all I needed to complete the gig. Be warned that the batteries (2xAA) don't - I had a low battery warning from a fresh set after about 60 minutes of intermittent use. The unit prefers a high current (500ma) power source. Solid as a rock and great sounds. Ā I also use a B1Four - mainly for home/headphone practice with a set of sounds that loosely mirror my main board. For a big and/or remote gig, I'd take it as a back-up. Feels a bit more flimsy but I've had no problems. The editing software for both (Zoom Guitar Lib or ToneLib) is a must. Ā 3 Quote
JosephMartyn Posted October 25, 2022 Author Posted October 25, 2022 Thanks again bassbods! I'm very tempted to take a punt on the b1x four now! A little bit of expression added in the mix!Ā š 2 Quote
Elfrasho Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Had many zoom pedals over the years. Always happy with the build quality and, to be honest, the sounds! 1 Quote
andruca Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) I own both a G1Xon (guitar model, but hacked with added bass FX, virtually making it a B1Xon for bass purposes) and a B1Xfour. My suggestion is get the B1on/Xon. Even tho' both can be tweaked to sound great, the fours sound boxier and noisier. The ON models sound fuller/rounder out of the box (and can be had for 40ā¬/$/Ā£ or less used). No Darkglass emulations on the ON models, but you can fake it decently enough with the BA SQUEAK (blendable RAT) emulation. I own many other previous gen models (B3, G3, MS-60B, MS-50G) and they all sound the same. Also owned many previous models (BFX-708, 708II, B2.1u) and they were all great and I never had a problem with it. My G1Xon in particular took a dive from 2m high, hit a desk (where it punched a hole) and then fell to the floor. Not even minor damage to it, really tough plastic I guess. Ā Ā Edited October 26, 2022 by andruca 1 Quote
JosephMartyn Posted October 26, 2022 Author Posted October 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, andruca said: I own both a G1Xon (guitar model, but hacked with added bass FX, virtually making it a B1Xon for bass purposes) and a B1Xfour. My suggestion is get the B1on/Xon. Even tho' both can be tweaked to sound great, the fours sound boxier and noisier. The ON models sound fuller/rounder out of the box (and can be had for 40ā¬/$/Ā£ or less used). No Darkglass emulations on the ON models, but you can fake it decently enough with the BA SQUEAK (blendable RAT) emulation. I own many other previous gen models (B3, G3, MS-60B, MS-50G) and they all sound the same. Also owned many previous models (BFX-708, 708II, B2.1u) and they were all great and I never had a problem with it. My G1Xon in particular took a dive from 2m high, hit a desk (where it punched a hole) and then fell to the floor. Not even minor damage to it, really tough plastic I guess. Ā Ā Excellent! Loving the info! Ā ...curve ball before I take a pint ok zoom...what about Line 6? Also looks like a lot of functions for the money on an older live pod board?! Quote
andruca Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, JosephMartyn said: Excellent! Loving the info! Ā ...curve ball before I take a pint ok zoom...what about Line 6? Also looks like a lot of functions for the money on an older live pod board?! Ā I've always felt meh about the old POD (and floorboard version). OTOH, with only minor insight into recent (Helix range) Line6 products I take my hat off, awesome tones, awesome layout/operation. Pricey tho'. 1 Quote
JosephMartyn Posted October 26, 2022 Author Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) And for those who may be interested...or just filling time! I plugged in this avo to try and get the dust off/ blow the cobwebs away! Ā After I hurt my left hand I got back into music with my acoustic guitar, so my facebook is mostly covering my summer acoustic gigs Ā I've just set up instagram, I'll post more clips as I try and remember how to play! 20221026_140011_1.mp4 Edited October 26, 2022 by JosephMartyn 1 Quote
Cato Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 I've got a B1ON and a Helix Stomp. Ā I genuinely think certain effects, such as the envelope filters and the synth, sound better through my bass and amp on the Zoom than the Stomp. 2 Quote
MartinB Posted October 27, 2022 Posted October 27, 2022 In my experience, a B1Xon can also be used as an emergency stand-in for a drummer who doesn't turn up for rehearsals š 2 Quote
JosephMartyn Posted October 27, 2022 Author Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, MartinB said: In my experience, a B1Xon can also be used as an emergency stand-in for a drummer who doesn't turn up for rehearsals š Love it! I just snapped one up on ebay! š 2 Quote
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