gaztaylor85 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 19:11, Maude said: Is the band in the above link supposed to be Smethurst's band, or Mason's? Whichever it is this is taken from the band images from the above link, lurking behind one of 'Take That' playing bass. This is 100% Mick Mason. hang on.... so is that guy smethurst or mason??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaztaylor85 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Jon08 said: Looks like he's opened another PayPal under Mick Smethurst as opposed to Mike... I've been done by this lad a few days ago. he blocked me but a mate has sent the link to his facebook page. which conveniently has blocked me too. www.facebook.com/matt.smethurst.334 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velarian Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If this is the same person who was previously convicted of fraud in Loughborough Magistrates Court on or around 15th January 2020, is it coincidence that this recent activity coincides with the expiry of his two-year suspended prison sentence? However, surely the police who dealt with the original prosecution would be interested to learn that he's returned to his nefarious ways? Also, Leicestershire Trading Standards were involved in that prosecution, perhaps it would be worth contacting them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon08 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 21/02/2022 at 17:05, Velarian said: If this is the same person who was previously convicted of fraud in Loughborough Magistrates Court on or around 15th January 2020, is it coincidence that this recent activity coincides with the expiry of his two-year suspended prison sentence? However, surely the police who dealt with the original prosecution would be interested to learn that he's returned to his nefarious ways? Also, Leicestershire Trading Standards were involved in that prosecution, perhaps it would be worth contacting them? He was scamming last year in December and before that I believe. I thought Trading Standards only are interested in businesses not private sellers on the likes of Facebook but worth a look, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandnewbadidea Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Hi ive just been scammed by Mike Smethurst and his EHX Canyon pedal via FB marketplace, found this thread after searching if others had had the same. He claimed he was in Sheffield, payed via Paypal and have raised it with them, google and FB. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Sorry, no Paypal Goods and Services. Too many scams around. Ironic He has an email address, if anyone has been scammed should be interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennywoods Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 John finney is his new alias or co conspirator, thanks for the details regarding his previous convictions, I want his head on a spike!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Dear me, this bloke isn't some poor deranged soul who got swept up in the odd dodgy deal. He's patently an organised, systematic criminal... IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Well, he does shepherd a lot of new people into the arms of BC. It's quite evident by now that @Kiwi and @ped must be paying him large sums for keeping up the good work. My guess: £30 per head. 😁 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, BassTractor said: Well, he does shepherd a lot of new people into the arms of BC. It's quite evident by now that @Kiwi and @ped must be paying him large sums for keeping up the good work. My guess: £30 per head. 😁 I've promised him a Sansamp 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Well the champagne in the fridge at our secret mountain-top BCHQ doesn't buy itself, y'know. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Rich said: Well the champagne in the fridge at our secret mountain-top BCHQ doesn't buy itself, y'know. What secret mountain top HQ.....is there something I should know 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, Rich said: Well the champagne in the fridge at our secret mountain-top BCHQ doesn't buy itself, y'know. This image just came to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, martthebass said: What secret mountain top HQ.....is there something I should know 😒 Oops, sorry, yes that's right. *ahem* NO, OF COURSE THERE IS NO SECRET HQ. THERE IS NO CHAMPAGNE OR CAVIAR. Phew. Nearly gave the game away there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I see someone has posted this on Facebook marketplace as a warning. Some other poor person scammed by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 https://www.ripandscam.com/submit-scammer.php Has the right idea but yet to snowball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velarian Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: https://www.ripandscam.com/submit-scammer.php Has the right idea but yet to snowball. The 90s has just called and it wants its web site back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Velarian said: The 90s has just called and it wants its web site back. Well it has a very good phone as it was on the top page of search results for Facebook scam. I hope to check back and see Smethurst in 90's lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon08 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 21/02/2022 at 17:05, Velarian said: If this is the same person who was previously convicted of fraud in Loughborough Magistrates Court on or around 15th January 2020, is it coincidence that this recent activity coincides with the expiry of his two-year suspended prison sentence? However, surely the police who dealt with the original prosecution would be interested to learn that he's returned to his nefarious ways? Also, Leicestershire Trading Standards were involved in that prosecution, perhaps it would be worth contacting them? On 28/02/2022 at 09:54, bennywoods said: John finney is his new alias or co conspirator, thanks for the details regarding his previous convictions, I want his head on a spike!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Leach Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Is there any basis for Smethurst and Mason being the same person other than the 12 in an email in one of the early posts on this thread? Looks like all the recent scams has been Matthew (Matt) Smethurst using the name Mike Smethurst, various email addresses (including James Smethurst) and a PayPal account under the name of John Finney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandnewbadidea Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 20/01/2021 at 22:04, fabbabass said: As an update to fellow Chatters, the guy coordinating the FB victims (Steve Ripley), informed me that a few more people have been in touch with him and that another has filed a report with the Fraud portal for Cheshire Police. If you have been ripped-off, please file reports adding as much detail as you can. Thank you. Do you have any more info on this please? Im also getting a list together, will also contact Steve Ripley, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Tom Leach said: Is there any basis for Smethurst and Mason being the same person other than the 12 in an email in one of the early posts on this thread? Looks like all the recent scams has been Matthew (Matt) Smethurst using the name Mike Smethurst, various email addresses (including James Smethurst) and a PayPal account under the name of John Finney I asked same awhile ago. Crickets. Even if the photo backgrounds turn out to be the same it wouldn't prove anything. SURELY A PAYPAL EMAIL CAN BE FOLLOWED BY AUTHORITIES TO AN ACTUAL BANK ACCOUNT TO AN ACTUAL KNOBHEAD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Has anybody received any warnings, requests to remove comments, threats from this scammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoJoKe Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: SURELY A PAYPAL EMAIL CAN BE FOLLOWED BY AUTHORITIES TO AN ACTUAL BANK ACCOUNT TO AN ACTUAL KNOBHEAD? I'm sure the answer must be yes, but PayPal have a challenge here, and won't want to make that easy. While a fraudulent seller is definitely leading buyers to pay this way, using "friends and family" for purchases is surely a breach of their service agreement in which the victim is sadly made complicit. So, they have zero motivation to investigate, as it would imply legitimate use and a requirement for payer/buyer protection. As far as I can see, the only obvious benefit to PayPal to facilitate "friends and family" is to generate useage, awareness, traffic and transactions, as (unless I'm being dumb here) it has no direct income value. They'd probably argue they have no responsibility to provide fraud protection and are more likely to reinforce what its misuse means, or maybe simply stop offering the service. Whether anyone has the power to force PayPal to reveal the attached bank account to a PayPal account is a completely different matter.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velarian Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, MoJoKe said: Whether anyone has the power to force PayPal to reveal the attached bank account to a PayPal account is a completely different matter.... The Police do. It just needs the police to wake up and recognise that a very active fraudster is ripping people off right, left and centre and then take action. The problem is that one instance of this chap’s actions is insignificant and on its own doesn’t trigger any action. However the cumulative effect is significant and if enough examples can be gathered they may be more motivated to take action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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