mikegatward Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Decided to replace my Streamliner 900 and go for a lightweight all solid state amp to run my 2 TKS S112 cabs but am spoilt for choice between: Mesa Boogie subway Tonehammer 500 Tecamp Puma 900 Any recommendations ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 TH for me... but if if you want a bit more grindey then the PF500 works well with those cabs, IMO. ( included because it is light enough as opposed to adhering strictly to the criteria.).. but also, for me, I wouldn't put it in front of TH500 anyway Having said that, those cabs seem to work with many amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ashsdown ABM400 or 1000 are excellent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegatward Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Oh, and I guess it's right to add the Genzler Magellan 800 into the mix. All 4 options are a similar new price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 [quote name='mikegatward' timestamp='1452605201' post='2951503'] Decided to replace my Streamliner 900 and go for a lightweight all solid state amp to run my 2 TKS S112 cabs but am spoilt for choice between: Mesa Boogie subway Tonehammer 500 Tecamp Puma 900 Any recommendations ? [/quote] What is it about the streamliner your trying to improve on ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegatward Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1452609481' post='2951587'] What is it about the streamliner your trying to improve on ?. [/quote] Although it's never happened to me, I worry about tube failure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1452609481' post='2951587'] What is it about the streamliner your trying to improve on ?. [/quote] Ditto this question; also thought the Mesa Boogie was similar to the Streamliner in that it has valve preamp and Class D power amp so not really a massive difference other than for the sake of it? Edit - just read your reply! Preamp valve failure is such a rarity as to not be worth worrying about. No more or less likely than a power capacitor failure for example. Edited January 12, 2016 by Merton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Merton' timestamp='1452614345' post='2951679'] Preamp valve failure is such a rarity as to not be worth worrying about. No more or less likely than a power capacitor failure for example. [/quote] Agreed, in a well designed circuit a low power valve should be very reliable, you would have to be pretty paranoid to change and amp just for this reason. EDIT - if your really dead set on a solid state amp that does a decent valvey drive sound then I'd look at the likes of Tech 21 VTB500 and TC RH series. Edited January 12, 2016 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 PUMA 500 Mike. More than enough beans, daft simple to use. I know folk say you shouldn't worry about it, but 900 watt head and 500 watts of speakers worried me, hence changing from the PUMA 900 to the 500. Enjoy the hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor5string Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The mesa does not have a valve in the preamp. Its solid state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 [quote name='victor5string' timestamp='1452683433' post='2952297'] The mesa does not have a valve in the preamp. Its solid state. [/quote] Fair enough, my memory is failing me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Talkbassers are wetting themselves over the Mesa, great reviews, looks like a solid choice. Not seen any reviews of the Magellan yet? A Darkglass amp is on the horizon too. The Tech21 VT500 is great value though, and the fact you can turn the blend all the way to clean to just have a transparent(ish) amp with EQ is a boon. I'm considering the VT myself, would love the Mesa but then again it is twice the price and difficult to get hold of at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The GK MB500 Fusion and TC RH750 are also worth a look as they are in a similar ballpark to the other amps mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The Mb Fusion has valves in it, and that's the reason the OP wants to change... Good call though, one of the best Class D amps I've ever used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The new Peavey head? I have no experience of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I have the Puma900....it's very clean compared to a Streamliner.... no grit in the pre. I thought I had a very clean sound but I'm now on the hunt for a subtle valve pedal... If you go to the Puma then you'll likely be doing the same before long, i suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deksawyer Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) I've been extremely happy using the original (and best) Puma 500 for a few years now. I think it sounds fat, loud, and can even sound gritty (NOT distorted or overdriven) - probably as a result of the basses I use. I ordered a Subway 800 today and it should be here for Fri. We have band practice on Tue so I'll let you know what I think then. I'll be using a Tecamp M212. My normal practice rig is an SWR 350 chrome face and 2 Yamaha 2x12's and that sounds amazing - not used the Tecamp rig apart from gigs for a while - I'll do a swap halfway through to compare Puma/Subway and maybe even the 350 as well. Should be interesting as our guitarist uses a Triaxis/2:Ninety setup so he'll be happy with the Mesa, although the Subway should be lighter than his setup - here's his 2:Ninety on my workbench: [attachment=209540:1970401_10152007847011448_2123211984_n.jpg] Keep your eyes and ears open! D. Edited January 13, 2016 by deksawyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I really liked my Streamliner but those valves - I know what you mean. With the possibility of a few gigs this year, I am picking up a Magellan tomorrow. I liked my Shuttle. I liked my Streamliner, a lot. So it is the obvious choice really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshorepunk Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A lot of talk around the amps I've been looking at, not had chance to play most of them yet, but reviews are looking promising The Genzler Mogadon seems to be a good, non valve option, as does the subway, but the price is +£100 over the Genzler right now. I was originally looking at a TH500, but there is some good competition out there now Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 If wanting a clean sound then of the amps listed I`d go for the Puma. If wanting gain/drive/old-school then Tonehammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 As you know the Streamliner you would immediately feel at home with the Magellan. Add in two switchable channels and 2 variable contour options to tailor the response to scooped or old-school and you have a really versatile set of options. If proves as reliable ss my Shuttle and Streamliner then for my needs it is just about perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 [quote name='sshorepunk' timestamp='1455794705' post='2982451'] A lot of talk around the amps I've been looking at, not had chance to play most of them yet, but reviews are looking promising The Genzler Mogadon seems to be a good, non valve option, as does the subway, but the price is +£100 over the Genzler right now. I was originally looking at a TH500, but there is some good competition out there now Tony [/quote] Damn, you had me looking for a new Genzler amp model!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Markbass TTE 500? There's one for sale on BC just now for a great price. It's possibly got a larger form factor than the other amps listed but is by no means heavy. Worth a look! Edited February 24, 2016 by krispn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Any of the Little Mark heads are worth a try too - especially as they can be picked up used for around £300. Massive bargain and loads of tone control. Rich and clean sounding (IMO). "Grit" can always be added externally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Has anyone on here ever had a valve pre go bad? I suspect the role of the preamp valve in hybrid deaths is minimal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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