karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 hi everyone abit of a bizzare question here but i have to write a 1500 word essay on someones effect on the industry (anlyse some of there techniques aswell) and was just wondering who everyone would think would be the better to write about bare in mind i have to go indetail about a song of theres cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 James Jamerson. But given the two options you mention, Jack Bruce every day of the week. Much more of an interesting character, had much more of an impact on the music scene of his time and produced far more listenable music. In my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Simon cowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Yes, Jack Bruce. I also suggest you use a spelling/grammar checker on your essay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1430221005' post='2759053'] James Jamerson. But given the two options you mention, Jack Bruce every day of the week. Much more of an interesting character, had much more of an impact on the music scene of his time and produced far more listenable music. In my humble opinion. [/quote] yeah i have a feeling aswell creams music maybe abit easier to analyse than jacos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Out of the two, Jack Bruce. Jaco's been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1430221144' post='2759059'] Yes, Jack Bruce. I also suggest you use a spelling/grammar checker on your essay. [/quote] yea defo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='karlplaysbass' timestamp='1430221259' post='2759062'] yeah i have a feeling aswell creams music maybe abit easier to analyse than jacos [/quote] He's best known for Cream obviously, but don't forget Blues Incorporated, Graham Bond, John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers, Manfred Mann, West, Bruce & Laing... he also worked with Kip Hanranan and Gary Moore among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1430221897' post='2759081'] He's best known for Cream obviously, but don't forget Blues Incorporated, Graham Bond, John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers, Manfred Mann, West, Bruce & Laing... he also worked with Kip Hanranan and Gary Moore among others. [/quote] im defiantly going to be writing about all the people hes worked with the only reason i say for cream for analysing is because ive got chord charts and info for the song im going indetail for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='karlplaysbass' timestamp='1430222053' post='2759086'] im defiantly going to be writing about all the people hes worked with the only reason i say for cream for analysing is because ive got chord charts and info for the song im going indetail for [/quote] No that's fair enough, I don't think anyone can complain if you analyse a Cream song in a Jack Bruce essay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I'd say Jack Bruce too. As big an impact as Jaco had, it's going to be hard not to fall into "troubled genius" cliché when writing an essay about him. Bruce seems like an interesting character, especially since he was making music like this on the side while he was in Cream; [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDNdLx9LnM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDNdLx9LnM[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I wrote an essay on Jaco, although it was more about technique and arrangement. There was so much information available that it didn't take much time to research, and it got me a decent first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I'd say Jack Bruce, but that's more down to my preference in terms of the music andbands he was involved with. Jaco or Jack Bruce, you're not going to run out of things to say in 1500 words, in fact I'd say you'll have trouble keeping it under that, but that may indeed be part of the exercise ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Jack also played on 'Apostrophe' by Frank Zappa. Much as I love Jaco's playing I'd say go for Jack Bruce. I doubt that there's anything about Jaco that hasn't alrady been written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubsonicSimpleton Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Bernard Edwards is another possibility - the production work he did with Nile Rogers had a major impact on the industry beyond his playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjs1909 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Definitely Jack - IMO the best there ever was. Was also one of the first to use bass a lead instrument and a fantastic songwriter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Jaco Bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzneck Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Jack Bruce - and read this first..... [attachment=190770:download.jpg] Edited April 28, 2015 by Jazzneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Jaco, if your tutors are anything like mine at my uni, then they'll be more into the Jaco thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Both have their place in Bass Guitar history, and rightly so. Nothing more to be said on Jaco - All been said, and in depth. They both had a great input into Bass playing, and both very serious musicians. But they both put out some rubbish playing wise. I am a real Jaco fan, but towards the end, his playing wasn't on top of it. Same for Jack as well, on some of the YouTube clips his intonation and solos were not up to what you would expect from him. But then again, did I read that he had developed some hearing problem? Jack was also a trained Cellist as well as an upright player, and had decent Piano chops as well, along with a back ground in Jazz. So plenty to research and write about regarding his great early playing career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='Jazzneck' timestamp='1430229418' post='2759206'] Jack Bruce - and read this first..... [attachment=190770:download.jpg] [/quote] i will but tight deadlines may stop me from reading it before i finish the essay :L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1430233499' post='2759282'] Both have their place in Bass Guitar history, and rightly so. Nothing more to be said on Jaco - All been said, and in depth. They both had a great input into Bass playing, and both very serious musicians. But they both put out some rubbish playing wise. I am a real Jaco fan, but towards the end, his playing wasn't on top of it. Same for Jack as well, on some of the YouTube clips his intonation and solos were not up to what you would expect from him. But then again, did I read that he had developed some hearing problem? Jack was also a trained Cellist as well as an upright player, and had decent Piano chops as well, along with a back ground in Jazz. So plenty to research and write about regarding his great early playing career. [/quote]jacks got quite the interesting life story to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='karlplaysbass' timestamp='1430237950' post='2759370'] jacks got quite the interesting life story to be honest [/quote] Just been having a nosy around the web, and he indeed he did have an interesting life journey. Good luck with the essay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1430225071' post='2759137'] Bernard Edwards is another possibility - the production work he did with Nile Rogers had a major impact on the industry beyond his playing. [/quote] Thank God for that! Someone trying to step away from the boring & predictable. You'll be far more likely to attract attention, and possibly learn something new, by going with a different subject. Try Brian Bennett, or Chas Hodges, or Ronnie Lane. Seriously - look 'em up, you'll be gob-smacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Does it have to be a bass player? i.e. Could you write about Joe Meek? If the person who's marking your work knows a lot about Jaco or Jack Bruce then they will know if you've missed out any (what they think) is important and mark you down accordingly. (Mainly 'cos they want to show off how much they know (perhaps).) If you take the road less travelled then there's more chance that it'll be new to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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