Urban Bassman Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) I happened to watch a bit of TOTP last night from 1978 and it featured Renaissance and their single Northern Lights. Not a bad song but the bass line is pretty good - very Chris Squire-esque I thought, However the bass player was playing a double necked 4 string and 6 string which was clearly a based on a Ric but wasn't. I've done a bit of googling and found that the bass player was Jon Camp but nothing on this instrument. It was very ornate and slotted headstocks (as seen on some Gibson EB-Os and SGs ) I also found some photos. [attachment=139775:joncamp.jpg] [attachment=139774:edincamp1.jpg] But I'm none the wiser. So your starter for ten - who made this bass? Just for fun Edited July 25, 2013 by Urban Bassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbyrne Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I had an Antoria Les Paul with a 'Tree of Life' inlay astonishingly like that. I'm sure Ibanez made Rick copies at one time, so out of the Nippon Gakki factory? G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Lord knows who made the doubleneck, but it's his Rick on the recording. Unusual clip, that TOTP one, it's a different mix to the single - the orchestra is a lot more prominent. Jon Camp was a great player, wonderful tone and feel. He's the first to admit Squire was his biggest influence. Here's a recent interview: [url="http://renaissance-fanfare.net/forum/topics/jon-camp-interview-2012"]http://renaissance-fanfare.net/forum/topics/jon-camp-interview-2012[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Agreed Cosmo, a talented chap. I've been doing a bit more digging and there's a reference on talk bass about a guitar maker called Dick Knight who may have made it for Jon. Jon also names checks him on that article you attached. There's no reference to it on the Knight Guitars web site though - they seem to specialise in arch-top jazzers. That may be it...unless anyone else knows more. Edited July 25, 2013 by Urban Bassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wow, and I thought my Laklandbird had the Least Accessible Top 5 Frets In Christendom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I thought this song came out in the 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 [quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1374764218' post='2152928'] I thought this song came out in the 70s. [/quote] Yep my bad. Not 1987 but 1978....doh! Edited to save further confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Here's the clip if anyone's interested [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhtHrBLgAk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhtHrBLgAk[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Not the version I saw last night this has Tony Blackburn last night's edition had Peter Powell, but it's the same bass! Edited July 25, 2013 by Urban Bassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The very first response to a google search for 'jon camp double neck' returned this: http://renaissance-fanfare.net/forum/topics/jon-camp-interview-2012 which confirms that it was made by Dick Knight. Interesting interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I think this song is unbelievably good. Clanking bass, beautiful vocals and god-like melody. Could be Yes. Just brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 i also remember distinctly remember this [url="http://youtu.be/5B578LuXbPI"]http://youtu.be/5B578LuXbPI[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Yep its artfully composed, the modulations remind me of killer queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulconnolly Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) I'm sure the bass was on display at the North West guitar show last year. Not much help really, sorry Edited July 25, 2013 by paulconnolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1374780708' post='2153224'] i also remember distinctly remember this [media]http://youtu.be/5B578LuXbPI[/media] [/quote] I've got that whole programme on DVD somewhere. Joyous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I liked some of their stuff but it got so confusing because the lineup changed every few months (or so it seemed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Annie haslam,very hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 One of those basslines I'd like to crack for a bit if fun one day but I'll never work it out by ear. Saw a reasonable tab of it once but that pre-chorus bit looks a handful and watching Camp do it on the TOTP clips doesn't make it look any easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1374790953' post='2153415'] Annie haslam,very hot. [/quote] 17 posts before somebody finally says it! She most certainly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1374832043' post='2153706'] 17 posts before somebody finally says it! She most certainly is. [/quote] Hairy, pastie 70s chicks never really did it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1374784932' post='2153290'] I've got that whole programme on DVD somewhere. Joyous. [/quote] If you find it is there any way I could possibly get hold of a copy? I love Renaissance but have never seen it. PM me if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='the boy' timestamp='1374832523' post='2153716'] Hairy, pastie 70s chicks never really did it for me. [/quote] I believe Greggs have now removed them from their product range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I know Jon - he lives in Stoke. The band has been touring again in the States. I'll ask him about the bass if he comes into the shop again. Great player and thoroughly nice bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Thanks to the OP , I always wondered who did this tune. Edited July 26, 2013 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1374862399' post='2154262'] I know Jon - he lives in Stoke. The band has been touring again in the States. I'll ask him about the bass if he comes into the shop again. Great player and thoroughly nice bloke. [/quote] Pete, if you do, ask him what rig he was using on the Black Flame clip on Youtube.... FWIW, last thing I seem to remember about his 'Great White' Ric was that it was bought off ebay a few years back (I remember it being on) by one of the Rick Resource guys who was a huge fan of Jon. I wonder if he got it back? Edited July 26, 2013 by 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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