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Kiwi

Vote on the Basschat Reputation System

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[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767']
Can the Mods like and dislike folk though even though we can't do it on their posts??
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Yes, because they are better than us, that's why they are mods. But they don't have to like/dislike because they can delete and ban. It's a bit like the police, they can arrest you but you can't arrest them.

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[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767']
so it's like the recent Union vote then :) [/quote]
No idea what that is. :)

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767']
Just had a thought though. If the likes/Dislikes in any form stay will the Mods still be exempt? I'd be feared it would create a sort of them and us atmosphere and add friction in the more heated topics. You know a bit of "aye you think your above it and I can't even neg you" towards them. [/quote]
The fact that they're mods already creates an us and them situation. I suggest there's nothing wrong with that.

The mods need to be neutral as much as possible in dealing with friction between members. They have immunity to protect them from retaliatory behaviour. It helps them focus on the job. Having to deal with too much negativity can make a difficult job sometimes thankless. In any case, there's another system for dealing with mod behaviour, ie PM-ing Ped or I.

On the other hand mods can't be liked either...I had 16 likes before we took away the rep system for mods...I've been ROBBED!! :) Besides which, it's not like being a mod or admin was ever a secret route towards being one of the cool kids...well not for me anyway.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767']
Can the Mods like and dislike folk though even though we can't do it on their posts??[/quote]
The mods are entitled to their opinions on topics that are unrelated to their roles and I doubt think their votes are going to distort the fabric of Basschat popularity to any significant degree. Ped, Machines, Hamster and I can see who has liked and disliked posts. Already we know of one member (not a mod) who created a separate profile so they could like their own posts under the other profile and then asked why we were taking issue with their posts when they were liked so many times...but my lips will remain sealed...they know who they are.

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Okay, how transparent is this? If I decide that I want to Dislike my old opponent Dickweed70286995995, does he get to see I've Disliked him? Or does he just have an anonymous running total of people who hate him?

Generally I don't like the idea of a rating system, because IMO it tends to freeze out the non-British members.

If we have to have this, could it be arranged that the specific post which the Like or Dislike is set on is available to members generally to see?
Or maybe some sort of reason should be required when posting a Like/Dislike; that would let people link to specific posts if they wanted (and we would quickly catch on if they didn't).

Edited by alyctes

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He doesn't get to see you have disliked him. The system is anonymous for everyone apart from admin.

[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1321658592' post='1441833']
Generally I don't like the idea of a rating system, because IMO it tends to freeze out the non-British members.
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How do you see nationality influencing the rep system?

Edited by Kiwi
clarification

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[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321659079' post='1441839']
Sorry but that's funny. I know some folk take the internet serious but that's taking it too far. :) :) :)
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We had a chuckle about it too. Especially because he had been fairly outspoken on some topics. Made me wonder about the other claims to credibility he'd made in his posts.

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[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1321658889' post='1441836']
He doesn't get to see you have disliked him. The system is anonymous for everyone apart from admin.
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Okay, thank you.

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How do you see nationality influencing the rep system?
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If you live in (example) Malta, your opportunities to meet Basschat members are limited, and few people will trade with you ("sorry mate, UK only"). The net result of that is that people who live outside the UK will seldom have many Likes.

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[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1321658065' post='1441831']
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Already we know of one member (not a mod) who created a separate profile so they could like their own posts under the other profile and then asked why we were taking issue with their posts when they were liked so many times...but my lips will remain sealed...they know who they are.
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Someone set up a sockpuppet? Really? Wow.

Edited by alyctes

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[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1321659619' post='1441847']
If you live in (example) Malta, your opportunities to meet Basschat members are limited, and few people will trade with you ("sorry mate, UK only"). The net result of that is that people who live outside the UK will seldom have many Likes.
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OK I think its important to be clear that the feedback on sales and reputation system for posts are separate and shouldn't be confused. A sellers decision not to send out of the UK is their perogative unfortunately. I don't think the reputation system will influence that. The feedback forum would be a better reference.

We've talked about a feedback system similar to a reputation system like for Ebay but the software we use doesn't offer that facility yet.

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I liked it when it first started out, I could like my own posts, and I did! I liked them because I wouldn't have posted them otherwise :-p

Another interesting way to look at this would be for likes and dislikes to remain seperate ie a post could have 4 likes and one dislike instead of 3 likes. Ultimately the members profile could work the same way which would actually give much more informative feedback.

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[quote name='charic' timestamp='1321660967' post='1441852']
a post could have 4 likes and one dislike instead of 3 likes.
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But then you'd need two totals for each profile instead of one.

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I voted for 'likes only' because I'm pretty sure that's what Mrs Tinman would do.

And because I recently caught myself giving someone a neg just to be spiteful. :)

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[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1321662624' post='1441875']
And because I recently caught myself giving someone a neg just to be spiteful.
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See? If you can be tempted then [i]anyone [/i]can be!
Another acronym: WWMTD. :)

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[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1321663048' post='1441879']
Another acronym: WWMTD. :)
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Pssst. Remember we're in 'Site News'. OT-ish behaviour and inappropriate levity is frowned upon. :)

So what does WWMTD stand for then?

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In the end I voted to get rid of the whole reputation caboodle. This isn't Facebook (luckily)! Better to have to add a few me toos or +1s than help fragmentaion and discord.

Thank you admin guys/mods for allowing us to vote.

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