TransistorBassMan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) [url="http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintagebass.html"]http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintagebass.html[/url] [url="http://www.guitarmagazine.co.uk/news/vintage-announce-signature-bass-for-big-countrys-tony-butler/"]http://www.guitarmagazine.co.uk/news/vintage-announce-signature-bass-for-big-countrys-tony-butler/[/url] Edited November 2, 2011 by TransistorBassMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Wowee ! A black Precision copy with a maple board ! That's sure original. What about it is different to the standard one they knock out apart from the fingerboard material ? [b]Vintage®Tony Butler V4Series[/b] Body: Eastern Poplar Neck: One-Piece Maple – Bolt On Fingerboard: Maple Scale: 34"/864mm Frets: 20 Neck Inlays: Black Dot Tuners: Wilkinson® WJBL200 Bridge: Wilkinson® WBBCCR Pickups: Wilkinson® WPB Hardware: Chrome Controls: 1 x Volume/ 1 x Tone [b]Vintage®V4Series[/b] Body: Eastern Poplar Neck: Hard Maple – Bolt On Fingerboard: Rosewood Scale: 34"/864mm Frets: 20 Neck Inlays: Pearloid Dot Tuners: Wilkinson® WJBL200 Bridge: Adjustable Pickups: Wilkinson® PB x 1 (M) WPB Hardware: Chrome Controls: 1 x Volume/ 1 x Tone Ah I see, nothing for an extra £50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 You cynic, Machines! One has a transfer of Tony Butler's name and the other doesn't. Big difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Good point, the £50 goes to him right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I can't really understand why people make copies of other people's products. Even the very expensive brands. Why don't they just come up with their own designs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='mercuryl' timestamp='1320241173' post='1424167']I can't really understand why people make copies of other people's products. Even the very expensive brands. Why don't they just come up with their own designs?[/quote] No sod would buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think having a signature bass that's only a cheap knock-off would be pretty depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1320242206' post='1424192'] No sod would buy them. [/quote] there, in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [b][i]For once, a P Bass that I actually want! So the manufacturer must be commended for that feat! The video of him playing it is great, the two sections of[i] Angle Park sound great.[/i] [/i][/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJL3nAUDyYk It's great to see Tony getting a signature bass. He is one of my absolute favourite players and I always think of him as the most talented UK bassist around, alongside Mark King. His lines are just incredible. I'm going to see Big Country live in February, which is great as they are one of my favourite bands. Absolutely awesome. Tony is the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1320242807' post='1424211'] there, in a nutshell [/quote]This has to be another thread I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1320243302' post='1424222'] I'm going to see Big Country live in February, [/quote] Ah, so thats who he is. I thought i had heard his name before. So does this come with a chorus pedal ;-) Just had a look at the video and wow, now i can see where some of my bass lines came from back in the 80's. Its nice to see him getting recognition but i dont see a real reason to bring this out. Its like a Squier Matt Freeman only slightly different and more expensive. Still waiting for a Bruce Foxton bass to come out. Now that was a unique looking P bass ;-) Edited November 2, 2011 by dave_bass5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I wish it did, and maybe some tips from Tony on how to get the best from it. He is the master of using chorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1320248400' post='1424346'] I wish it did, and maybe some tips from Tony on how to get the best from it. He is the master of using chorus. [/quote] Yeah, he was a big part of the BC sound IMO. This is all bring back fond memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1320248299' post='1424340'] Just had a look at the video and wow, now i can see where some of my bass lines came from back in the 80's. Its nice to see him getting recognition but i dont see a real reason to bring this out. [/quote] I think the reason we're seeing it now is that Big Country are only just tenatively getting back together to tour and maybe record again. If you cehck recent interviews with the band members, they all feel very positive about it and seem to want to make a go of things again if it feels right. Interestingly, Tony seems the most cautious about getting back together, and he has always maintained he wouldn't be interested if it wasn't for the right reasons, or it didn't feel right. So to see Tony excited about where they're going now is a really positive indicator for me. As it is, the band's profile is still too small for a big brand to be knock on Tony's door, and he was content playing his own basses for years. Fenders, Warwicks, Arias etc etc. I think Tony has referred to this bass as a reproduction of the one he uses on stage. It's just an opportunity for JHS to get a 'name' associated with them and to make a little bit of cash, but it's also nice to see Tony getting the recognition he deserves with a signature bass. Sadly, it's not something that would interest me greatly (I'd rather he played a Warwick Thumb again) but it's better that it exists than that it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFitzgerald Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Tony and Mark Brzezicki were and indeed still are one of those signature rythm sections. Great player. Solid and inventive at the same time is a rare talent. Some of the young dudes with their Ricks around their ankles would do well to listen to how Tony plays if they really must use a plec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1320243302' post='1424222'] [b][i]For once, a P Bass that I actually want! So the manufacturer must be commended for that feat! The video of him playing it is great, the two sections of[i] Angle Park sound great.[/i] [/i][/b] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJL3nAUDyYk"]http://www.youtube.c...d&v=nJL3nAUDyYk[/url] It's great to see Tony getting a signature bass. He is one of my absolute favourite players and I always think of him as the most talented UK bassist around, alongside Mark King. His lines are just incredible. I'm going to see Big Country live in February, which is great as they are one of my favourite bands. Absolutely awesome. Tony is the man. [/quote] Tony IS the man. Me likeee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1320254048' post='1424451'] Tony and Mark Brzezicki were and indeed still are one of those signature rythm sections. Great player. Solid and inventive at the same time is a rare talent. Some of the young dudes with their Ricks around their ankles would do well to listen to how Tony plays if they really must use a plec. [/quote] Yes. And this, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1320243302' post='1424222'] It's great to see Tony getting a signature bass. He is one of my absolute favourite players and I always think of him as the most talented UK bassist around, alongside Mark King. His lines are just incredible. I'm going to see Big Country live in February, which is great as they are one of my favourite bands. Absolutely awesome. Tony is the man. [/quote] +1 Tony's a great player. Always loved Big Country. He's one of those bassists who's got such a signature style and sound. One of those "do exactly what the song needs" players. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OycvimPi6Jg[/media] Check the wholly appropriate bass solo at 4:34. That's the way to do it. Think I'm wearing my kilt at the gig on Saturday.... T Edited November 2, 2011 by tonyf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 If this is supposed to be a sig model why on earth did they leave the tone knob wired in? The only thing that could possible distinguish this from a bog standard black/maple P and they don't bother to do it right. Still a nice bass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus x-1 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Played the basic standard model at a shop recently, was impressed, nice bass for less than £200, not the sig model but same specs I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1320253725' post='1424441'] I think the reason we're seeing it now is that Big Country are only just tenatively getting back together to tour and maybe record again. If you cehck recent interviews with the band members, they all feel very positive about it and seem to want to make a go of things again if it feels right. Interestingly, Tony seems the most cautious about getting back together, and he has always maintained he wouldn't be interested if it wasn't for the right reasons, or it didn't feel right. So to see Tony excited about where they're going now is a really positive indicator for me. As it is, the band's profile is still too small for a big brand to be knock on Tony's door, and he was content playing his own basses for years. Fenders, Warwicks, Arias etc etc. I think Tony has referred to this bass as a reproduction of the one he uses on stage. It's just an opportunity for JHS to get a 'name' associated with them and to make a little bit of cash, but it's also nice to see Tony getting the recognition he deserves with a signature bass. Sadly, it's not something that would interest me greatly (I'd rather he played a Warwick Thumb again) but it's better that it exists than that it doesn't. [/quote] You missed out the bit where you tell us all how ugly the bass is, how awful it sounds and how it is based on a terrible design that has been outdated for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 What's with the Fender look-a-like? All the classic live footage I remember and just confirmed on YouTube has him playing an Ibanez Musician Bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markorbit Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1320276083' post='1424857'] What's with the Fender look-a-like? All the classic live footage I remember and just confirmed on YouTube has him playing an Ibanez Musician Bass. [/quote] In their heyday I took quite a bit of notice to Big Country and the way the bass fits in. He's quite unique is Tony. Don't recall an Ibanez Musician bass being used much if at all - are you sure it's not an Aria SB Series? That's usually the bass shown on the first album tracks. Think on Steeltown he went to Precision and stayed there for a while. Always used Trace Elliot though, I think he was one of the early adopters along with Leeroy from Bow Wow Wow, another fab bassist. Edited November 3, 2011 by markorbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 [quote name='markorbit' timestamp='1320284836' post='1424921'] ... Don't recall an Ibanez Musician bass being used much if at all - are you sure it's not an Aria SB Series?... [/quote] ... are you sure it's not an Aria TSB series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1320308008' post='1424988'] ... are you sure it's not an Aria TSB series? [/quote] That's the one - looks like a TSB650... Definitely not very Fendery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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