warwickhunt

Not sure of the size of the venues that you intend playing but unless you can get your subs (assuming you are looking at a pair) a good distance a part (sure BFM/AC/others will give the required distance), then you are better off just using a single sub... or stack the two subs together! We went active last year and bought some used RCF gear with a Yamaha desk and we've never looked back. In the region of 2.4k rig and despite the six piece band going through it at some venues, we've got loads of headroom, cost us about £2k which was a pair of used 750 tops, single 900w bass bin and a new desk. The weight (bin aside) is great and it's an easy one man lift to get the tops onto the pole/stand.

[quote name='gub' post='1233295' date='May 16 2011, 05:16 PM']very true i may go up on the train and get it .[/quote] We should start our own BC network, if you're coming up to say Newcastle from Cornwall; you could collect a bass for me from down South (ie on route) and I'd meet you half way... just got to go and find someone selling a bass in Cornwall now.

[quote name='gub' post='1233273' date='May 16 2011, 04:56 PM']Sorry i know this is in the wrong place but i am getting desperate and nobody has answered it in the correct section.[/quote] I suspect the problem is that so many couriers have small print that excludes guitars yet they will still take your premium to insure them, thus it's a bit of a minefield establishing who does. Check the start of the thread that you originally posted in and you may be able to glean a courier that will accept your package BUT (and that is a big 'J Low' sized BUT), I personally would phone the courier and after establishing the name of the person you are speaking to (for later reference if there should be a problem), ask if they insure instruments that aren't in cases. There is no easy answer afaik!

Not a much loved model, but a bit of a bargain for a Dolphin SN bass... [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150602807273"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=150602807273[/url]

These days I'd be seriously concerned about 'Fakes'! There have always been good copies/fakes but these days the attention to detail is just scary and I reckon unless you know your stuff absolutely inside out, there's a fair chance of getting stung!

A good solid stable neck should handle the change no problem. As has been pointed out it will likely as not, require some fettling (nut, truss rod tweak, bridge saddles) but nothing serious.

I have a Tech Soundsystems 2x12 combo/cab available that is essentially the identical design to the Schroeder (2nd driver on an angled baffle) iirc the Tech design predates the Schroeder. It's essentially a combo with the amp section removed (there is a 2U slot on the top where you can insert a rackmount amp or rack effects), it comes complete with an extendable speaker cable fitted with a speak-on connector (though you could solder on whatever fitting you required); 8ohms 300w and £195 if it's of interest! The drivers look like the aluminium Hartke ones but they aren't, they are the Tech 'Classic-line' speakers. For a description of sound... think Schroeder! <edit> I should add that it has a variable tweeter, which unlike standard tweeters where you just subtract it from the mix, you have different selectable settings.

[quote name='pete.young' post='1230784' date='May 14 2011, 10:40 AM']I'm pleased you got it sorted out. All that remains is to keep a close eye on the 'bay to see when it re-appears and make sure it's properly described.[/quote] Busy 'phrasing' my feedback.

[quote name='Johnston' post='1230677' date='May 14 2011, 08:00 AM']WOOOO HOOOO that was nice to wake up to I'm sure.[/quote] Oh yes! Odd how he got the bass back at 01:52 this morning! That's the time he closed the case and as he's insisted that he lives alone and his neighbour has been working (can't/won't dispute that one) I'm assuming that he's come back from the pub/a gig and though 'fcuk it I may as well give #19 a knock and see if he's in' because otherwise it indicates that maybe he's had the bass for some time now!

[quote name='karlfer' post='1230643' date='May 14 2011, 06:41 AM']It is a shame that there is so much deflection going on. To alienate a good number of BC'ers and possibly the legendary Overwater by simply twisting and turning instead of cutting to the basic's, is a bit mis-guided in my opinion. OK, off the fence time, growing a spine time. WH has a fantastic reputation on here and I very much doubt he would jeopardise that. Hope it works out justly for you fella. Karl.[/quote] Cheers Karl and I can finally draw a line under this... no more deflection from the seller! Message via eBay; 'Bass handed in from 19 today,they had been working,refund as promised,had a good laugh at your buddies on basschat,cheers' Now I don't care if Ron/Ronz/Big Ronz deems it fit to come back to BassChat and offer a response but I'll say here and now that there are good, decent individuals on this site who have offering moral and practical support and if you genuinely think that they are to be laughed at mate then that is a sad reflection on you. However, I think your parting shot via ebay is 'probably' as a result of the fact that you feel a bit of a t1t for what you've been playing at over the last week or so. Do I think you are a regular scammer operating on a regular basis to fleece folk... No, not really! I reckon you chanced upon an opportunity (a cheap Overwater) that you thought might turn you a quick profit and unfortunately for you it went pear-shaped and you were just playing silly beggars with the whole 'not my signature/not my address/I haven't got the bass' hoping that maybe you'd get away with keeping the bass and the money due to some technicality over the return of the bass. Unfortunately for you, in this age of communication technology, the world is getting ever smaller and the music scene connection contracts that even smaller again, hence you got brought down to earth with a bump. So once again I'd like to publicly thank those people on Basschat that have either offered me advice, practical support or who've just read this thread maybe without even passing comment and I'll leave this with (hopefully) one final thought. I have my money back now so I could be all righteous, pompous and forgiving about this whole matter but do you know what... I'm not! Despite what I've said above, I do personally think that Ron is a fcukin devious awkward tw4t and I hope that karma comes back and takes a chunk out of his backside. Later guys... Oh and is anybody keeping the BassChat score because that's another one to us.

[quote name='Shockwave' post='1230577' date='May 13 2011, 11:46 PM']Haha, Ronz is a regular on the Neil Moser forums and insulted me on another forum. Myself and a number of people know hes a bit of a prat as well. He has a pretty close relationship to Overwater I believe.[/quote] Best he not ask for a reference from the Mods then! However, a 'close relationship with Overwater'...

[quote name='tm486' post='1230509' date='May 13 2011, 10:17 PM']10.The buyer has not once claimed otherwise. He has stated that you have offered a full refund upon receiving the bass, and I truly hope that being unable to contact the person living at number 19 is the only problem.[/quote] Sooooo wish I was quicker with responses! Tom, I've no idea who you are but your last point cuts through the cr4p as I was trying to do towards the end of my previous reply... the bass sits with your neighbour; why the deflection tactics Ron? Oh and you've a deal with Chris May for a signature bass... that'll be the Chris May who commented earlier in the thread and has offered to take a look at the bass! It might pay to take him up on that offer.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1230439' date='May 13 2011, 09:15 PM']Ok peeps. The seller has been in touch with me via our local (steady on MB1 ) music forum to help him post a further statement on his behalf as he is having some undisclosed problems doing so himself.... [color="#8B0000"][i]Hi,I'm Ronz,the guy who sold the Overwater bass. Let me point out a few things. 1.I am NOT a scammer and laugh at the people on this board who are quite willing to say publically that I am! You don't know me so you're just making guesses after hearing 1 side of the story. 2. I sold the bass in good faith and it did not have the extent of cracks that are pictured. There may have been laquer cracks but nothing more than that. Those are the first pictures I have seen of them at that extent. 3. Bass was sent insured up to £500,I'm quite happy to scan and post the reciept with extra insurance. 4. At NO POINT did I say to the seller,"so what,you got it cheap". I would love for him to post where I said that. 5.If I had seen the cracks I would have told the buyer to hold the bass there as that is what is needed when a claim is to be made,he showed me nothing,I only saw it on this forum after being tipped off by friends who frequent here. 6. He seems to think by pointing out that his wife works for the police force that this will somehow scare me into refunding him before I have my bass back. An honest seller is in no way intimidated by this and was fairly pointless to mention it I thought. 7. The courier's website has indeed shown it to be delivered,but with no address ,just Aberdeen and certainly not my name or signature. 8. Which one of you on this board would refund somebody when you don't have the bass back? Be honest? 9. I have my own signature series with Overwater so i'm hardly going to be a scammer! 10. I have tried number 19 twice and no answer. I've always maintained that when I get the bass back I'll issue a refund,ask the buyer to deny that![/i][/color] I'm just passing this on (as received). Please don't shoot the messenger. [/quote] Thanks for posting this Rich and I'll check with the mods to establish if there's a reason why Ron couldn't have posted this response himself; as always I'll give the benefit of the doubt that maybe extenuating circumstances prevent him posting personally... though he posts often enough on another forum so not withstanding newbie restrictions I'm puzzled. I work all day every day with people who use the minutiae of detail to try and mask the bigger picture so you'll forgive me if I don't respond to the 10 points posed by Ron. However, I will ask a couple of basic questions which I'd appreciate being answered in an open and honest manner so that there is no ambiguity to facilitate squirming at a later date! A) Why, WHY, [size=4]WHY[/size] didn't you at ANY point ask for pictures of the damage, especially if [u]as you claim[/u] you had full insurance? Why have you wasted so much time (and continue to do so; pt 7 above) and effort via the ebay communications and the ebay resolution Centre to deflect from the fact that you knew fine well that the bass was with a neighbour (ie it was not my signature, it isn't my 'next-door neighbour' etc etc)? Actually, I could go on asking a multitude of questions but ultimately regardless of whether this was a premeditated scam or you are p*ssed off because the bass has issues and you thought passing it off would be painless and easy (hmmm is that a question for another day, why you sold a £2k bass and yet hadn't even plugged it in and established that the vol pot was shot to sh*t?), it can't be that hard to see that I returned the bass to you in good faith and it is sitting with one of your neighbours waiting for you to collect it... why the fcuk am I left waiting for a refund when all you have to do is catch your neighbour when he is in and ask for your parcel? PLEASE rather than play your silly deflection tactics just answer the last bit!

[quote name='Johnston' post='1230297' date='May 13 2011, 07:06 PM']I dunno over your way but around here if you dropped someone in the flat below you in the sh*t the chances would be you wouldn't be walking properly for a while if ever again. I sure hope 19 is the understanding kind and not some samurai wielding nut job !!![/quote] They look a nice block of flats so chances are the neighbour will just grass him up... pronto!

Now starting to think that the poor s*d in all of this is going to be the guy at #19! As UPS have the guy at #19's signature and a statement from the UPS driver that the package is with the guy at #19, it transpires that subsequent claims by either my agents or those acting for ebay or UPS may well be made against [u]him[/u]. Our friend the seller probably hasn't thought through the fact that someone somewhere will be demanding compensation for a £485 package and all fingers point to the poor bugger at #19. I REALLY hope that the seller doesn't give a fig about what his neighbours think, as the bloke who's about to get the flack for our friend Ron's actions is going to be pretty chuffin miffed. I'd personally be making sure that if I were getting the flack for this I'd be kicking Ron's door in and making sure that the neighbourhood knew what a cnut's trick he'd pulled! Of course if he's mates with chummy at #19 then they may well try and counter any claim but expecting a loss of £485 to disappear is pretty short-sighted.

[quote name='Beedster' post='1230137' date='May 13 2011, 04:51 PM']John, really sorry to hear about all this, and I'm sure you'll get it sorted, although let's hope it doesn't take the courier pursuing a prosecution against the recipient of the bass to force events. I'm not saying this as a "should have done it this way" manner, but more to help people who might have to deal with iffy ebayers in the future, but in the special instructions section that most couriers have, simply state "Deliver to named recipient at stated address only. Do not leave at any other address". At least this way, although it might take longer to get back to the seller, it gets there without any of the problems (how many times does the issue of basses left with neighbours by couriers come up FCS!). What your seller is pulling is one of the oldest scams on ebay, and one that I resolved a couple of years back by emailing the seller to whom I'd returned an amp, and in very formal language, along the lines "I will be "instructing my representative in ........ to visit the address to which the courier has delivered the item. He has instructions to speak to the signatory and if he has no satisfaction, or is unable to make contact with said person, he is to proceed with legal action for theft." Funnily enough, the seller emailed back the same day saying that the neighbour had received the item but that he had completely forgotten about it being a bit old Good luck mate C[/quote] Cheers Chris. As it happens your suggestion above may well be going one step further! I'm getting together with an old mate tomorrow who's a solicitor with his family having a chain of solicitor firms. We've just been chatting on the phone making plans for tomorrow and I couldn't help but mention this situation; as his family have branches throughout the NE of England and are now practicing in Scotland, he's going to get one of the partners in a Scottish branch (a personal friend of his) to act on my behalf should things go pear shaped with ebay... and it'll not cost me a bean (maybe a bottle of Scotch but it transpires I may get back more than my original amount due to the claim that will be pursued), I feel very humbled by the offer and I'm not daft enough to look a gift horse in the mouth. Added to which there have been some very kind words and actions going back and forth via ebay. In a way if the guy doesn't accept that he's received the bass back and refunds me by Sunday, he's in for a whole heap of sh1t whichever way you look at it and I'm not really going to be losing any sleep over him. I'm feeling confident now but not smug and I fully realise that there'll be loads of folks that get fleeced like this and don't have the support or forethought to counter such actions, it has opened my eyes to how easily the ebay system could potentially be abused.

[quote name='Johnston' post='1230068' date='May 13 2011, 03:56 PM']Maybe more of a case of why would you say you haven't been to see the neighbour. Let me guess. Because then he can say he has no Bass and keep the money . Where as he actually has both. No matter how you look at it he's being an awkward c*** .[/quote] I have to confess that he is being pedantic about the fact that I said the bass was with his '[u]next-door[/u] neighbour at #19' (this is as was described to me by the UPS), his responses have switched from overemphasising that it isn't his signature (durgh we've accepted that) to the fact he doesn't have a next door neighbour @ #19... no because he lives in a 'kin flat and #19 is directly below him! However, I'll admit that I have a sneaking suspicion that though he is still protesting that he hasn't got the bass and he's been to #19 twice, I (like you) believe that he's got the bass sitting at home and he's simply chancing the fact that there is a slim chance that ebay might favour him and not refund... win/win for him he reckons, whereas even if they refund he's lost nothing as he has the bass back any way. What he may not have considered is that in the event that he still claims not to have gotten his bass, UPS will be initiating a claim of theft by the neighbour and when the police go knocking on #19's door he's going to fess up pretty quickly that our seller has the bass back and then UPS will be prosecuting him for falsely claiming not to be in receipt of the bass! I get a refund from UPS and he gets a nice black mark against his name (in England it may be a CCJ which affects your credit rating etc but in Scotland it may be different) with a criminal prosecution. I've got to wait till Sunday evening when the 10 days are up and then I can upscale my claim but the good thing is that ebay have indicated that as I've followed guidelines, there shouldn't be a problem and as he is being a c*ck about the whole thing there is the chance that ebay will suspend his account... win/win for me!

[quote name='lettsguitars' post='1229983' date='May 13 2011, 02:45 PM']it's easy enough to raise an issue with ebay.[/quote] It certainly is BUT as with my case, the item has been returned as instructed and I've still got ongoing issues. Due to the small detail of a courier leaving it with a neighbour (and who among us would have a problem with that as it is a damn sight easier than trying to have it redelivered), we have a situation where the seller likely has the bass and is playing dumb by persistently stating "well that's not my address or my signature"! Come on let's get serious, I've told him the bass is with a neighbour @ #19, even if the neighbour is house-bound it doesn't take long for him to walk down one flight of stairs and knock on the guy's door that lives directly below him... why would you NOT go and get the bass?