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[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='715067' date='Jan 16 2010, 06:18 PM']Yes indeedy & we all know that the preamp in the 2-band has more punch and "scoopedness" than the three. It'll be a five for me this year, unless something else comes up.[/quote] I might just save my 5 string quest for this tbh...

I just wish there were proper demos of these things hanging about! Thats my problem...the tone is the ultimate goal, then aesthetics and neck.

Purely because Ive heard they make a good 5 string. I really like the Lakkie 35" scale...not sure what its like over a long period of playing though (eg achey hands etc)

Thanks for all the info guys. Im thinking MAYBE a Spector...but I dont know what their string spacing and necks are like.

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='714833' date='Jan 16 2010, 01:59 PM']Have you hefted one in the flesh before? If not, we could attempt to meet up now you're in the region, and you could have a bash on mine. Admittedly it's a fretless with a polyestered ebony board, so it's unlike any other SR5 in existence (AFAIK), but you're welcome to try it out. I love it, but the weight still takes me by surprise a little bit every time I pick it up, especially if I'm coming from a stint on my Fender.[/quote] Hey thanks! Im moving in just under two weeks, ll let you know. I tested a SR5, a lovely colour, a few months back. I think the reason I want a Jazz or Ray is the pickup is very comfy to play finger style on. The Ray I tested was lighter than the Lakland I also tested! I do like the necks on both, but the Lakkie was SO easy to play. Its a shame they are so hard to get hold of....

Thanks guys! I havent seen much on the new American Series 5 Jazz as yet...I ned to scour the internet a bit. Rich - Havent tested the DRs yet....still life in my old strings but Ive got a nice pile of new strings ready for when im gigging a lot again. I am thinking Stingray 5, secondhand....seem to be going very cheap recently. I like the Clover basses, but again im worried about second hand value. I really want a proper vintage growly jazz tone.

Right, Ive kinda gone full circle with this as well. As you can guess, I like a tradtional bodyshape. I am looking for the perfect 5 string. I am willing to save a little more now as my previous efforts have failed over the past 5 months or so. I would prefer the following: Jazz type bass (two single coils) Failing this, a MM Style Humbucker (and probably to save messing about, an actual Stingray/Sterling!) Olympic White/Aged White/Sunburst/Sonic Blue/possibly Natural. Decent medium weight, nothing heavy. Comfortable neck (very important....for reference, I really like the 35" Lakland necks). If Jazz, MUST have passive option or be totally passive. Nothing too polite...as it will no doubt be used in a rock band...so has to have a good growl! I dont really want an obscure manufacturer, as I dont want to struggle to move it on if I have to. I would like blocks/inlays if possible. Budget? Approx £1200 MAX. I know Lakland sits right into this bracket, but their current availability is annoying me, so anything but Lakland unless there are pristine second hand ones for sale.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='714470' date='Jan 15 2010, 11:43 PM']A big +1 to all of that. I've only ordered a couple of instruments on spec and luckily they've always been good ones, apart from the MIM Jazz V that rusted from condensation. I always try before I buy and pick very carefully. My Am.Std. Jazz was literally the tenth one I'd tried. It took that many to find the right one not only for me, but that met my exacting quality standards. Thankfully, I've no such gripes with Status. Every single bass passes through Rob Green's hands before it exits the building. If only all companies could be as good. [/quote] I wish id gone for your SR5 now! Hmm...think I might just need to start from scratch again.

Well, the store have been quick enough to sort a pickup/return on Monday. Im actually really disappointed, as I really wanted one of these instruments. I tried some out in London as well, and found the same few niggles on each one. If they were £300-400 less, fair enough.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='714317' date='Jan 15 2010, 08:44 PM']Your question is its own answer. Cab companies build and promote what they think will sell, and the vast majority of players buy their cabs based not upon the engineering within but rather on how they look and who uses them. Mixing drivers to cover the same bandwidth is not good engineering, but it is successful marketing. If you must succumb to the lures of that marketing a 1x15 and 2x10 are a reasonably good match. A 1x15 and 4x10 isn't. I'm not aware of any. If any of the usual sources possessed the technical know-how to do that you can rest assured that they wouldn't keep it a secret. AccuGroove tries to make it seem that way in their ad copy, but their level of technical incompetence was tellingly revealed in the AccuSwitch debacle. The only significant engineering that I'm aware of where mixed cabs is concerned lies in making the footprints the same for stacking. More than a few 1x15 and 4x10 cabs share not only the same footprint but the exact same cabinet save the number of holes in the baffle. That should set off alarm bells, but curiously it doesn't. The stacking of the two looks very pretty, so it sells.[/quote] I remember even Tom Bowlus stating how good the Orange stack was hence I went for the whole thing once I tested it. Its one of the only 1x15s I really like, and the porting, IMO, is designed very well. It DOES sound good...honestly. I tried a few other ideas, and ive tried high end cabs that are right at the top price bracket. The Orange still sounds good in its own way. I asked TC about their cab matching, and they said all their artists bar a few chose the 210/212 because it just works. They designed them to work how they do. They might not be looking at it from a scientific point of view all the time, but then again, I dont like a sterile perfect uncoloured rig if im honest....Im not keen on the whole 'mini PA' idea. I want a bass rig which can handle finger funk, dirty hardcore punk with lots of grind, and normal rock n roll.

Im guessing you liked it the best?

Its more than the setup unfortunately. Its things that cannot be rectified without going back to the manufacturer.

[quote name='JayGarrett' post='714197' date='Jan 15 2010, 07:18 PM']I just went super cheap and paid £8 for a folding luggage rack from Walthamstow market - bosh! RS210 fits nicely on it and I wont cry if someone steals it or if it breaks.[/quote] Ah...thats good for the nice small rigs...cheers. But my Orange 4x10 is a monster....sounds awesome...but a monster to move! I think I might just have to get a really good old style trolley...the big strong ones. That might not fold up...but it wont break neither!

Hey Ive recently tried to purchase TWO of the same bass, and the first one was in a right mess. I got a refund on that one, but then spotted another, a little more money but they were throwing a quality case in etc. So, I receive it today, sure plays better, no fret buzz, nice neck BUT, yet again, QC issues that I dont think a bass should have when its more than 1K retail price. I wont go into detail as both stores have been more thean helpful, and hopefully when I try to return this I will have no problems. It has put me off searching though...for the right 5 string. All my Stingrays were perfect from the factory, and still are. My 3 Fenders are blindlingly good, and they have really improved on their QC for a sub £900 instrument. Any advice?!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='714033' date='Jan 15 2010, 05:14 PM']What about them? There are factors other than driver diameter at play. They don't sound good because there are 10s and 12s,, they sound good because they are designed taking all the factors into account (or at least getting them right inadvertently).[/quote] What about the 'dont ever mix drivers' debate that the cabinet designers always state?! Thats what I dont understand. If its done correctly, like TC, why not? Cheers

[quote name='Jerry_B' post='713781' date='Jan 15 2010, 02:18 PM']Cheers You might to check out the various 'acronym' bands of the time too: SNFU, RKL, early DRI (before they became a Crossover band). Another good band was Spermbirds. Also, you could go back a little earlier to when the US hardcore punk scene really kicked off - you can see the excellent 'American Hardcore' documentary [url="http://tinyurl.com/y87ssgu"]here...[/url] - that also kicks off with the always excellent 'Pay To Cum' by Bad Brains [/quote] Man, SNFU, I remember those guys. Crazy but actually really good.

What about the TC Electronic RS210/212? I heard it and it sure sounded good! TC even have a video on how to set it up so the 10s are further back so more of a balanced mix. Any ideas? Or is it just science? As in, my Orange rig sounds good, so who cares?!

Am I right in guessing in chromatic mode it will work just like a TU2? As in, you want one string, say the E, in D, you just tune to D?

Its just as good as normal tuners in chromatic mode as well. The vids explain it quite well. So the Poly thing is an addition.

[quote name='Jerry_B' post='713621' date='Jan 15 2010, 12:24 PM']It might also be worthwhile familiarising yourself with older (mid to late '80s) US hardcore punk bands, such a Dag Nasty, Rites of Spring, and a fair few others from the Dischord label. And perhaps bands from the same era such as Attitude, The Stupids, and Final Conflict. NoFX and others seem to be descended from that sort of stuff, albeit with a slightly more poppy tempo.[/quote] Exceptional taste sir!

Gotta be a Classic Stingray 4/5 for me, in the light blue. The white pickups looks awesome! Maple board is also a must. Think this might be my 2010 bass!