SteveXFR Posted Tuesday at 14:47 Posted Tuesday at 14:47 What does a reverse P configuration achieve compared to the standard Fender configuration? Ive got a bass with each type of P pickup but they're so different in terms of preamp and pickup position and bridge setup that I can't tell what reversing them has done. Quote
Lozz196 Posted Tuesday at 15:15 Posted Tuesday at 15:15 The main thing for me is thinner strings further from bridge/thicker nearer the bridge must make for a better balance. I often find that the D (and G should I ever use it) lack depth in comparison to the E & A. 6 Quote
neepheid Posted Tuesday at 15:18 Posted Tuesday at 15:18 It subtly changes the sound, and gives people yet another thing to endlessly debate the virtues of on an electric bass 6 11 Quote
ghostwheel Posted Tuesday at 15:57 Posted Tuesday at 15:57 I love it on my HB MP-4 (EMGs and LHZ-04), but am note quite resolved about it on a Squier Contemporary Precision (rerouted for reversed P) with Bartolinis Classic and flats. Quote
SteveXFR Posted Tuesday at 16:23 Author Posted Tuesday at 16:23 1 hour ago, neepheid said: It subtly changes the sound, and gives people yet another thing to endlessly debate the virtues of on an electric bass Is it up there with the nitro vs poly paint tone debate? Quote
Beedster Posted Tuesday at 17:05 Posted Tuesday at 17:05 Yamaha use it and they know their stuff 👍 1 Quote
Steve Browning Posted Tuesday at 17:34 Posted Tuesday at 17:34 It's filed in the same drawer as rack straying over the sides of the cab underneath. A drawer that must not be opened!! Quote
Stofferson Posted Tuesday at 18:54 Posted Tuesday at 18:54 Prefer it personally, better balance across the strings. Got this one, and another on the way 8 Quote
SteveXFR Posted Tuesday at 21:35 Author Posted Tuesday at 21:35 (edited) 4 hours ago, Beedster said: Yamaha use it and they know their stuff 👍 My BB1100S has conventional, Fender style P pickup. My Spector has reverse P Edited Tuesday at 21:36 by SteveXFR Quote
Bassassin Posted yesterday at 17:43 Posted yesterday at 17:43 Logic suggests there should be a better tonal balance, experience (which in my case is a Yammy BB400 fretless & a Washburn SB40 P/J) doesn't really demonstrate much appreciable difference. I sold the Yam because I couldn't get the fretless tone I wanted with a P pickup. There's probably an argument for it on a 2x P, or any bass with the pickup closer to the bridge than normal, but I dunno. I quite like the look. Quote
PaulThePlug Posted yesterday at 17:48 Posted yesterday at 17:48 All this better tonal balance across the stringz, but maybe in the design time the halves were that way to reduce the bass boom of the E and Increase the treble bell of the G for a wider range of tones across the strings. Amps and Cabs in those days etc. Quote
Nail Soup Posted yesterday at 17:55 Posted yesterday at 17:55 For anyone who doesn't know, could someone explain what a reverse P configuration is? Quote
PaulThePlug Posted yesterday at 18:02 Posted yesterday at 18:02 (edited) For Info, the Mk1 Barts often fitted in Ibanez and Cort are Reverse P in a Soap Bar... not my pickup Which might explain why they often score less favourable when compared to a Bart Full Humbucker Soapbar. Edited yesterday at 18:02 by PaulThePlug Quote
neepheid Posted yesterday at 18:02 Posted yesterday at 18:02 6 minutes ago, Nail Soup said: For anyone who doesn't know, could someone explain what a reverse P configuration is? It's when the E and A half of a split pickup is closer to the bridge than the D and G half. Regular way is the other way round. 1 Quote
SteveXFR Posted yesterday at 18:27 Author Posted yesterday at 18:27 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Nail Soup said: For anyone who doesn't know, could someone explain what a reverse P configuration is? @neepheid beat me to it and explain it better Edited yesterday at 18:28 by SteveXFR 1 Quote
Nail Soup Posted yesterday at 19:23 Posted yesterday at 19:23 1 hour ago, neepheid said: It's when the E and A half of a split pickup is closer to the bridge than the D and G half. Regular way is the other way round. 53 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: @neepheid beat me to it and explain it better Thanks for the explanation understood! But as I lean a little towards the "it sounds like a bass" camp, I won't be contributing much to the discussion 😆. Quote
Dood Posted yesterday at 20:17 Posted yesterday at 20:17 There's a great example video on YouTube I saw a while ago. Its very subtle but the timbre does change from one position to the other. Three of my basses are reverse P (notably the Fender Power Jazz Bass Special model) and I have reviewed a good pile Spector basses over the years with reverse P pickups in them too. Tonally I prefer the sound of my 76 precision with the standard layout but one thing that certainly does sound WAY better is a PJ set in the reverse configuration. The D&G strinsg need that distance between the coils of the P and J to sound less thin together. 1 Quote
Dood Posted yesterday at 20:20 Posted yesterday at 20:20 I don't think it was this one, but still, I can hear the difference:- 2 Quote
80Hz Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 15 hours ago, Dood said: one thing that certainly does sound WAY better is a PJ set in the reverse configuration Interesting, in this video I preferred standard PJ configuration! Of course he's playing with a pick which will highlight the overtones. He also doesn't get into 60s versus 70s J spacing which will add another minor variable. Cool idea for a testbed bass. ...and down the rabbit hole I go 😆 1 Quote
Dood Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, 80Hz said: Interesting, in this video I preferred standard PJ configuration! Of course he's playing with a pick which will highlight the overtones. He also doesn't get into 60s versus 70s J spacing which will add another minor variable. Cool idea for a testbed bass. ...and down the rabbit hole I go 😆 Absolutely, we all have our preferences! I just found the 'pop' and pick sounds on the D & G strings to lack the body that the reverse config (and jazz basses in general) produces. Which aligns with why many favour the reverse P. I think the examples would have been better presented with a improved "amp" tone, but I suppose he was just trying to demonstrate quickly. I think I did spot a video on his page about jazz bass 60's and 70's spacing, so that definitely makes a difference too. - but I suppose ultimately, like anything on a bass, is whether or not its something that is important to the player - lightweight tuning keys, gold encrusted knobs.. or just a buzz free fretboard! ... see you in the rabbit hole, i'll bring biscuits!!! 😃 1 Quote
Minininjarob Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 20/01/2026 at 15:15, Lozz196 said: The main thing for me is thinner strings further from bridge/thicker nearer the bridge must make for a better balance. I often find that the D (and G should I ever use it) lack depth in comparison to the E & A. I found this was pretty much eliminated when I got my BassRig SV pedal. An expensive fix but I am loving it. Quote
Lozz196 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Minininjarob said: I found this was pretty much eliminated when I got my BassRig SV pedal. An expensive fix but I am loving it. Which one is this Rob? Quote
Minininjarob Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Lozz196 said: Which one is this Rob? This one. I use a Cali 76 too. Not sure how it all works so well but I’m super pleased with the tone. I use a GK 400rb amp into any cab, I plugged into a ratty old Ampeg cab (maybe 2x12 or 4x10) and it all sounded glorious. 1 1 Quote
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