Danny Sapko discovers… (now including follow up vid that is worse!)

[Supernaut]

It's disturbing and worrying that genuine musicians seem to have given up when it comes to defending the art of playing and writing songs. Sad day/times. 

[BigRedX]

2 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

It's disturbing and worrying that genuine musicians seem to have given up when it comes to defending the art of playing and writing songs. Sad day/times. 

 

No we haven't.

 

Those of us who can just get on with creating, and don't bother getting worked up over fake internet outrage.

[Burns-bass]

17 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said:

 

Fair enough, I did just skim the Sapko video, I find his quirky youtuber personality schtick grating. 

 

He (and the rest) are exaggerated personalities because that's what works online. (If you're being pedantic, you'd also suggest he changes his website because he claims to be "European Bass Player of the Year 2020" – when in fact he only won an online competition.)

[Supernaut]

Just now, BigRedX said:

 

No we haven't.

 

Those of us who can just get on with creating, and don't bother getting worked up over fake internet outrage.

Sure, dude. Aren't you the guy who will not attend gigs if over 30 people are there? 😂

[HeadlessBassist]

It just proves how gullible Joe Public really is. As we know from being performers of various levels of ability, Joe Public just likes a nice tune, usually a nice tune he knows. It doesn’t matter if you’re terrible or amazing. They don’t know the difference. You can have perfect technique, sound and chops. It doesn’t matter to them. You can have the most horrendous technique, terrible sound, and no chops and they’ll still love it when you play something they know. They’ll love it even more if a young lady flashes some pretty flesh. How’d you think Stock Aitken & Waterman made so much moolah in the 80’s?

 

I always remember the two old hecklers at a Thursday night Jam in Carlton, Nottingham several decades ago. If you were good they’d shout, “Play something we know!” If you were truly awful, it’d be “Play something YOU know!”

 

As for Sapko, I’m left wondering who’s taking the urine out of who? After all, he’s making plenty of YouTube money out of hot air and fake outrage. Good luck to them all, I say. I’m off to watch Hoovie’s Garage. “Wiiiiizard…”

 

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by HeadlessBassist

[Skinnyman]

53 minutes ago, TimR said:

 

It gives them a sense of purpose and it does influence a lot of people to take up worthwhile activities. 

 

I mean we could moan all we like about people pretending to play an instrument, but if a handful of people are inspired to pick up an instrument, then that's quite worthwhile.

I don’t really have a problem with her - it’s his faux outrage that I find irritating. And increasingly common all over social media. 
 

[Skinnyman]

56 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

Wotch it Skinny... you're perilously close to being outraged by sochal meeja...

 

 

 

I’m old and grumpy. Complaining about The World Today is a civic duty. 

[Hellzero]

7 minutes ago, HeadlessBassist said:

They’ll love it even more if a young lady flashes some pretty flesh. How’d you think Stock Aitken & Waterman made so much moolah in the 80’s?

Didn't know that Rick Astley was a young lady flashing some pretty flesh. 

[HeadlessBassist]

Just now, Hellzero said:

Didn't know that Rick Astley was a young lady flashing some pretty flesh. 

 

Astley was a cunning Master of Disguise - real name, Lola. 🤣

[BigRedX]

1 hour ago, Supernaut said:

Sure, dude. Aren't you the guy who will not attend gigs if over 30 people are there? 😂

 

TBH these days I don't attend any gigs that I'm not actually playing, because I'm simply too busy with my own music.

 

The last gig I played had about 350 people in the audience, and while they hadn't all come specifically to see us, most of them were watching the stage while we were on rather than at the bar.

 

I might possibly go and see The Birthdays Massacre when they play at The Rescue Rooms in Nottingham but I'm still hoping that my band will land the opening slot.

[Cato]

Once you get beyond promoting your next gig or your mates mates posting their holiday snaps most social media is fakery to some extent.

 

Whether it's lifestyle influencers faking an idyllic, carefree existence or the fitness fanatics who enthuse about a healthy lifestyle while neglecting to mention their own heroic steroid intake, or the straight up thieves trying to steal your money with crypto scams.

 

Even most of the funny animal clips are clearly staged.

 

Add in that posting content can also be highly lucrative and it's not that suprising that a lot of content creators don't seem to know or much care where the moral boundary is between presenting the best version of yourself and outright deception.

 

I'm not sure a lot of the audience it's aimed at is that bothered either, right up to the moment the outrage bandwagon starts rolling.

Edited 17 hours ago by Cato

[asingardenof]

5 hours ago, HeadlessBassist said:

You can have the most horrendous technique, terrible sound, and no chops and they’ll still love it when you play something they know.

Yep, that about sums up my gigging career to date.

[Dood]

6 hours ago, Hellzero said:

Are you telling us you don't have the right body to win on social media @Dood ? 😉🤪🤔

 

To put it another way, my friend is a top-tier bassist who gets to play with one of the most famous bands in the world, but his follower numbers are absolutely dwarfed by pretty people who know how to put out for the camera.

 

[Dood]

5 hours ago, Supernaut said:

It's disturbing and worrying that genuine musicians seem to have given up when it comes to defending the art of playing and writing songs. Sad day/times. 

 

5 hours ago, BigRedX said:

 

No we haven't.

 

Those of us who can just get on with creating, and don't bother getting worked up over fake internet outrage.

 

I do think it IS getting harder to convince the “I won’t pay for music” crowds the value of what we do. It’s bad enough trying to get a “like” and a “share” for slaving for hours over a video editor!

[tauzero]

6 hours ago, HeadlessBassist said:

You can have the most horrendous technique, terrible sound, and no chops and they’ll still love it when you play something they know.

 

If you play something that's quite close to the recording that they have in their head, they'll mentally supply all the other bits. Get too far from the original and the gears will start to grind though.

[Wolverinebass]

1 hour ago, Dood said:

 

To put it another way, my friend is a top-tier bassist who gets to play with one of the most famous bands in the world, but his follower numbers are absolutely dwarfed by pretty people who know how to put out for the camera.

 

That sounds like he should be upping his OnlyFans game. Pathetic and no commitment to the social media game.

[Dan Dare]

7 hours ago, Dood said:

You don't have to have talent to win on social media, but it helps if you have the body for it.

 

It's debatable whether she does. I have to say, I find her vid's hilarious. They're so obviously mimed tripe that anyone who is fooled only has themselves to blame. I particularly like the one in which her mum twiddles the knobs on a $59 mixer (with, of course, no effect on the sound) whilst our heroine gives it large.   

[Dood]

16 minutes ago, Wolverinebass said:

That sounds like he should be upping his OnlyFans game. Pathetic and no commitment to the social media game.

😂 Well, true, he hasn’t pretended that he doesn’t know he’s using his body as clickbait. 

[Dood]

15 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

 

It's debatable whether she does. I have to say, I find her vid's hilarious. They're so obviously mimed tripe that anyone who is fooled only has themselves to blame. I particularly like the one in which her mum twiddles the knobs on a $59 mixer (with, of course, no effect on the sound) whilst our heroine gives it large.   

Given the subject of the post, I have to admit I wasn’t specific referring to this person - these videos are so obviously mimed and, not knowing anything else about her, I’d love to think she was just taking the piss out of “influencers” and the entire audience commenting are in on the joke. Maybe the lesson links take you off to the ultimate shred rickrole or something!

 

but I fear that maybe a parallel universe where honest politicians and common sense and critical thinking skills thrive.

 

I’m not long for social media, it’s turning in to more effort than it is worth.

[tauzero]

48 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

 

It's debatable whether she does. I have to say, I find her vid's hilarious. They're so obviously mimed tripe that anyone who is fooled only has themselves to blame. I particularly like the one in which her mum twiddles the knobs on a $59 mixer (with, of course, no effect on the sound) whilst our heroine gives it large.   

 

"Wasn't it great the way that Bob Geldof got a saxophone sound out of a candelabra?"

[BassTractor]

Weird thing (to me) is that we have the same in the classical music world: some young people with enormous online presence and Wikipedia articles about them, and who travel the planet to give concerts ... and ... they can't play for the life of them.
Sophomoric at best, and in fact I've had 1st year students play better than these.

I think their visual appearances have something to say in this.

[Dood]

24 minutes ago, BassTractor said:

Weird thing (to me) is that we have the same in the classical music world: some young people with enormous online presence and Wikipedia articles about them, and who travel the planet to give concerts ... and ... they can't play for the life of them.
Sophomoric at best, and in fact I've had 1st year students play better than these.

I think their visual appearances have something to say in this.

👍

I have students who play better than some of these. Maybe if they spent less time practicing trading flesh for likes but practicing their instruments instead … 

[Beedster]

16 hours ago, BigRedX said:

 

No we haven't.

 

Those of us who can just get on with creating, and don't bother getting worked up over fake internet outrage.

This ^

 

And the outrage - and therefore this thread - is all part of the marketing, the only thing worse than being talked about ……

[BabyBlueSound]

On 18/08/2025 at 07:38, Burns-bass said:

 

Man, who cares?

 

 

...whoever posts and reads the topic purely dedicated to this sort of thing? 😁

 

NOT you obviously 😁

[BabyBlueSound]

58 minutes ago, Beedster said:

This ^

 

And the outrage - and therefore this thread - is all part of the marketing, the only thing worse than being talked about ……

 

I mean I genuinely don't understand this sort of a thing... why are you here then, a topic dedicated to this? 😁

 

To give you an example, I don't care about metal bass or the genre... to me personally it sounds and feels like nothing, so... I don't read metal bass topics, or comment on them, saying I have no interest in this and to me it all sounds like metallic farts.

 

You don't care about the fake outrage... again, why are you here, just to position yourself above other people with some holier than thou opinion?

It's not like we open a new topic every time a half-entertaining Sapko video comes up. 😁

 

"Creating instead of spending time outraging" is hardly a convincing opinion when one then drops a "I don't care but I'm still here commenting" line... or can that be considered part of the creative process? Will all this be in the lyrics of their new catchy song? 😁

 

Also, what outrage?

It's a 5 min video people don't even watch till the end, it's not like the outrage is stopping generations of content and music being dropped, this is something I'd watch on the loo 😁 I just found it funny someone is actually trying to sell guitar courses with a million-view cameltoe spread.

 

I think shit like this should be called out indeed, there should be evidence videos of it indeed, we should have a laugh at these videos and the fools if they entertain us, then we should move on. We should not "outrage" or tell other people what they should be spending their free time on.

 

If not interested in a specific topic: there are many many many other topics and forums where you can be the contrarian just as easily 😂. Welcome to the internet.

 

Absolutely no hard feelings, but I honestly don't understand when someone comes to a topic that's ACTUALLY about a topic and just shits on the ongoing stuff. Well good on ya. I am here because these silly videos entertain me.