Oasis to reform?

[PaulWarning]

4 minutes ago, Russ said:

He used to be fond of old Burns and Eko basses, as well as sometimes playing a Fender P.

From the limited number of non-Liam-and-Noel pics I've seen of the Cardiff show, he was playing his black Burns Bison. 

unless you can tell a difference from  hearing gig or recording does it matter? amused me that the Rod Stewart bassist used 3 basses at Glastonbury and you could hardly hear him, never mind tell any difference between them

I used a different bass at one of our gigs, I said to my partner afterwards how it sounded, she replied "It sounded like a bass!" 😂

[Russ]

6 minutes ago, PaulWarning said:

unless you can tell a difference from  hearing gig or recording does it matter? amused me that the Rod Stewart bassist used 3 basses at Glastonbury and you could hardly hear him, never mind tell any difference between them

I used a different bass at one of our gigs, I said to my partner afterwards how it sounded, she replied "It sounded like a bass!" 😂

Those newer Bisons have a certain bite that's quite distinctive. Could barely hear him in the footage I've seen though. There was bass, but it was kinda mushy. Nobody goes to an Oasis show to watch the bass player though.  

 

[ian61]

7 minutes ago, PaulWarning said:

I said to my partner afterwards how it sounded, she replied "It sounded like a bass

Haha .. How many times have I heard that from the punters. On the other hand I did a festival years back and you could have sworn I was playing an Alembic with fresh rounds.  I was actually playing an old P bass with very dead Chromes. FOH will do with us as they see fit.,

[Lozz196]

5 minutes ago, ian61 said:

Haha .. How many times have I heard that from the punters. On the other hand I did a festival years back and you could have sworn I was playing an Alembic with fresh rounds.  I was actually playing an old P bass with very dead Chromes. FOH will do with us as they see fit.,

Opposite happened to me, punk band, Precision with new steel rounds into driven Sansamp, engineer proudly advised after gig how he’d had real trouble getting a Motown sound from my signal but after a lot of work he’d managed it! 

 

Back on track, yeah I suppose the bass isn’t particularly prominent in Oasis but it has to be there, interesting to see the choice made about gear selected for a foundational role rather than cutting through.

[AndyTravis]

@Lozz196 the pics I’ve seen look like a 68-74 sunburst P

[Russ]

 

10 minutes ago, AndyTravis said:

@Lozz196 the pics I’ve seen look like a 68-74 sunburst P

Just went and watched some vids of the show on YT. I guess the pictures I saw must have been old, Andy was definitely playing a sunburst P (and had shorter hair than the pics where he was playing the Burns).

 

Andy's actually a bloody good musician, his guitar work in Ride was excellent, and, frankly, he's a bit wasted in Oasis. But the pay is probably far, far better! 

[PaulWarning]

51 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

 

 

Back on track, yeah I suppose the bass isn’t particularly prominent in Oasis but it has to be there, interesting to see the choice made about gear selected for a foundational role rather than cutting through.

seems to be the modern way, bass is there to add bottom end, nobody knows what a bass does until it's not there

[Wolverinebass]

35 minutes ago, PaulWarning said:

seems to be the modern way, bass is there to add bottom end, nobody knows what a bass does until it's not there

See, I'm sick of that crap and there's nothing "modern" about it. It's almost as if virtuoso or groundbreaking bass players have never existed. We've retreated (or been relegated) to a role that the bass should have escaped by the 60s.

 

Oasis isn't a bass player band anyway, but Andy Bell is probably the best guitarist in that band and he's not even playing guitar. Can't have Noel feel inferior can we?

[la bam]

He used to have a sunburst p years back. From memory the famous(ish) picture with the green and blue striped top he has one.... I only remember as I used to be in an oasis tribute and spent ages trying to find that top! 

[peteb]

1 hour ago, PaulWarning said:

seems to be the modern way, bass is there to add bottom end, nobody knows what a bass does until it's not there

 

Hasn't that always been the role of bass in 90% of music? 

 

[AndyTravis]

51 minutes ago, Wolverinebass said:

 

Oasis isn't a bass player band anyway, but Andy Bell is probably the best guitarist in that band and he's not even playing guitar. Can't have Noel feel inferior can we?

Go let it out was a banger, “pick up the bass”

 

That was Noel on a 4005 after Guigsy left.

 

i’ll say though, if you actually listen rather than dismiss…it was a fairly present bass sound.

 

I dunno, I like oasis so.

[Wolverinebass]

13 minutes ago, AndyTravis said:

Go let it out was a banger, “pick up the bass”

 

That was Noel on a 4005 after Guigsy left.

 

i’ll say though, if you actually listen rather than dismiss…it was a fairly present bass sound.

 

I dunno, I like oasis so.

I thought Go Let It Out wasn't very good to be honest and I saw them on that tour at Murrayfield in 2000.  They played pretty much the same set that they played at Cardiff the other day. An old one. They lost relevance post 1996 with awful material and terribly produced albums. It's not like I don't like them as a band per se, but they've released much more crap material than great.

[la bam]

I much preferred guigsy on bass. 

 

More melodic and bass like. 

 

When Andy Bell took over (no disrespect to him) it just sounded like noel (as a guitarist) had written all the bass lines, but in a guitarist style. No contrast between guitars and bass. 

 

They didn't do anything for me after guigsy. 

Edited 22 hours ago by la bam

[AndyTravis]

10 minutes ago, Wolverinebass said:

I thought Go Let It Out wasn't very good to be honest and I saw them on that tour at Murrayfield in 2000.  They played pretty much the same set that they played at Cardiff the other day. An old one. They lost relevance post 1996 with awful material and terribly produced albums. It's not like I don't like them as a band per se, but they've released much more crap material than great.

I’d happily say the same about Rod Stewart, David Bowie, The Stones, The Who…

 

All bands have their breakthrough golden moments and the dregs of whatever career they can manage thereafter.

 

Jesus, look at Metallica…haven’t done a decent album since 1991…

 

RHCP depending what you think…maybe “By The Way” Was passable?

 

As a point I love all the acts mentioned above - but skip huge swathes of songs as I listen.

 

 

[Lozz196]

1 hour ago, AndyTravis said:

Go let it out was a banger, “pick up the bass”

 

That was Noel on a 4005 after Guigsy left.

 

i’ll say though, if you actually listen rather than dismiss…it was a fairly present bass sound.

 

I dunno, I like oasis so.

Same, I liked that one, though very interesting that the Oasis song with the best bass is one with Noel playing, maybe he couldn’t stand anything he’d played not being prominent in the mix?

[AndyTravis]

40 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

Same, I liked that one, though very interesting that the Oasis song with the best bass is one with Noel playing, maybe he couldn’t stand anything he’d played not being prominent in the mix?

I always wondered if it was a dig as it was the first single post guigsy…

[Cosmo Valdemar]

2 hours ago, AndyTravis said:

Go let it out was a banger, “pick up the bass”

 

That was Noel on a 4005 after Guigsy left.

 

i’ll say though, if you actually listen rather than dismiss…it was a fairly present bass sound.

 

I dunno, I like oasis so.

I've never been a fan of Oasis, but I'll admit I always used to watch that video when it popped up in MTV/VH1 because of the bass and the rare chance to see a 4005 in the wild!

 

Did Noel actually play it on the record? It's pretty fuzzy but it does have that Rick neck pickup airy quality to it.

[Wolverinebass]

6 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

I've never been a fan of Oasis, but I'll admit I always used to watch that video when it popped up in MTV/VH1 because of the bass and the rare chance to see a 4005 in the wild!

 

Did Noel actually play it on the record? It's pretty fuzzy but it does have that Rick neck pickup airy quality to it.

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is a mishmash of Noel and Paul Stacey playing bass. Noel plays Go Let It Out.

[PaulWarning]

4 hours ago, peteb said:

 

Hasn't that always been the role of bass in 90% of music? 

 

yes you're probably right, I like listening to songs by artists where the bass is more prominent, Stranglers, Jam even the Beatles on some of their tracks, especially the remixed versions, even Status Quo up to but not including Rocking All Over the World, the bass drove the songs along instead of just adding low end

[chris_b]

7 hours ago, PaulWarning said:

. . . . she replied "It sounded like a bass!" 

 

That’s the level of insight I get!!

[Count Bassy]

8 hours ago, PaulWarning said:

unless you can tell a difference from  hearing gig or recording does it matter? amused me that the Rod Stewart bassist used 3 basses at Glastonbury and you could hardly hear him, never mind tell any difference between them

I used a different bass at one of our gigs, I said to my partner afterwards how it sounded, she replied "It sounded like a bass!" 😂

Which, let's be honest, is how 99.9 % of the population would view it.

[Bass Direct]

From the clips ive seen, it looks/sounds like the crowds are enjoying it immensely...

[Leonard Smalls]

14 hours ago, Wolverinebass said:

We've retreated (or been relegated) to a role that the bass should have escaped by the 60s.

Aye! 

Bass players are their own worst enemy - we see it on BC frequently where amazing bassists are dismissed as wannabe lead guitarists, or "playing too many notes and not knowing their place". 

We have the biggest instruments (unless it's a Steinberger!) and so should wield them, rather than letting the look-at-me guitarists get all the adulation!

We need a protest group - Musicians Against Guitarists' Attention-seeking.

[TimR]

If Oasis want rhythm guitarists to play bass, that's their choice. It explains why their music sounds like it does and why Oasis aren't a band that features prominently in bass chat. Most of us don't know who the bass player is.

 

The only song I've ever had to learn is Cigarettes and Alcohol. The bass is buried in the mix or probably more likely is just playing one root note per bar. I gave up trying to learn it and just did the above. 

 

The 90s was a strange decade for Music, the Madchester scene mainly passed me by.

[Pow_22]

Definitely played what appeared to be a 70's P bass.  As per the previous leaked pics of the rehearsal room his rig was 2 x Fender Super Bassman's via 2 x Fender 8x10's