Vintage Fenders

[rodney72a]

10 hours ago, Pow_22 said:

Same experience with the Fullertons.  I tried a 58 P bass, I genuinely thought the more recent Classic MIM 50's were better.  For me, if you want an original but on a budget, you cant beat the 80's MIJ reissues

 

There has never been a Fullerton 58 P reissue.

[rodney72a]

11 hours ago, Misdee said:

I remember when the Fullerton Reissues came out in the early 1980's and some reviews slating them as overpriced and underwhelming in terms of quality and playability. They were especially disappointing considering the relatively cheap but very cheerful JV Squires that were abundant  in the shops at exactly the same time .

 

There is nothing 'disappointing' about the Fullerton reissues. Some of their features are not historically accurate when compared to the originals but they're great instruments in their own right.

[bakerster135]

45 minutes ago, rodney72a said:

 

There has never been a Fullerton 58 P reissue.

I'm assuming they mean the 57, which there definitely was a Fullerton reissue of. 

[Pow_22]

9 hours ago, rodney72a said:

 

There has never been a Fullerton 58 P reissue.

 

My bad, i meant the 50's gold/burst/maple one, one of my favourtite P bass colour combos.  Assume it was called a 57?

[BombTheBassist]

Hi there.

 

I was wondering about this '64 Jazz Bass. It is for sale and was wondering about authenticity. I know a fair amount about 50's Strats but not 60s Fender basses. However, being a vintage fan I always wanted a 60s JB. It has been refinished but other parts of it don't look right to me (serial no stamp, knobs, pots etc.). I wondered what your thoughts were - if any? Many thanks! 

[Mrbigstuff]

51 minutes ago, BombTheBassist said:

Hi there.

 

I was wondering about this '64 Jazz Bass. It is for sale and was wondering about authenticity. I know a fair amount about 50's Strats but not 60s Fender basses. However, being a vintage fan I always wanted a 60s JB. It has been refinished but other parts of it don't look right to me (serial no stamp, knobs, pots etc.). I wondered what your thoughts were - if any? Many thanks! 

Wow where to begin.

 

knobs and decal for starters. Fingerboard looks like it’s been in a shark attack

[Geek99]

That neck stamp is very black and clear 

I may be wrong but the plate bevel looks like a later one 

[BombTheBassist]

Thanks for the responses! Much appreciated. Yes, it does raise rather a few questions I think. Yeah, the decals are a mile off. 

[Woodinblack]

1 hour ago, BombTheBassist said:

 

Wow - the previous owner must have spent a lot of time soloing around the 20th fret to get that kind of wear!

[Geek99]

52 minutes ago, BombTheBassist said:

Thanks for the responses! Much appreciated. Yes, it does raise rather a few questions I think. Yeah, the decals are a mile off. 

There was a time when they didn’t know the neck varnish attacked decals, and there was a time when the decal sat on top of varnish with no coating, conceivably the damage could be attributable to those causes, however there should also be a fair bit more decal there 

[Geek99]

46 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

 

Wow - the previous owner must have spent a lot of time soloing around the 20th fret to get that kind of wear!

Maybe the previous owner was a guitarist? You’d need to have it hosed down if so as they can carry mites and ticks, especially if they haven’t been kept in captivity and given vetenary care 

[Geek99]

It’s okay for the serial to be stamped on the neck plate for some early years. IIRC it was them moved to a decal on the headstock. There are experts on here who could tell you when approximately, like@Hellzero amongst others 

 

equally this may be a bitsa where someone didn’t do their homework 

 

my guess is that it’s a good fake with a few original parts - probably white originally also. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad instrument though 

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Geek99

[Reggaebass]

This is just my opinion, There’s quite a lot of breakout on the fretboard probably from a bad refret, I’m on phone picks but they don’t look level either, wrong decal and knobs and 1 intonation screw is shorter , tuners and pickguard look original , the font on the neck stamp looks right to me , will have a better look later at home , I think I’ve seen this jazz up for sale before 

[Lozz196]

The knobs in the control plate look badly spaced to me

[police squad]

L serial is correct for 1964

veneer board also correct

[Burns-bass]

Is it vintage? Possibly, but it’s hard to tell. 

 

Neck looks twisted, frets look awful and the condition is atrocious. Personally I’d walk away as fast as I could.

 

Assume asking £5k +++

[BlueMoon]

2 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

Is it vintage? Possibly, but it’s hard to tell. 

 

Neck looks twisted, frets look awful and the condition is atrocious. Personally I’d walk away as fast as I could.

 

Assume asking £5k +++

I’m in this camp. Looks far too risky to investigate further and there will definitely be others that come along that are less questionable.

[BombTheBassist]

7 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

Is it vintage? Possibly, but it’s hard to tell. 

 

Neck looks twisted, frets look awful and the condition is atrocious. Personally I’d walk away as fast as I could.

 

Assume asking £5k +++

It's in an auction mate. Currently 1400. Was wondering whether it was worth a punt really. I think some bits really are 64

[snorkie635]

1 minute ago, BlueMoon said:

I’m in this camp. Looks far too risky to investigate further and there will definitely be others that come along that are less questionable.

NEWAVLBP (not even with a very large barge pole).

[BombTheBassist]

3 hours ago, police squad said:

L serial is correct for 1964

veneer board also correct

 

I thought the font for the serial looked a bit strange though. Unlike other 64s I've compared.

[Stub Mandrel]

That twisted neck puts me off. Would need serious luthier attention.

 

AFAIK decal on varnish is right for early 60s. Don't know about 64.

[Sparky Mark]

Headstock from my L serial number 1964 J. Looks like decal is under the varnish to me. Although looking closer at the photo (bass is a bit harder to look at ATM) there is a chip off the decal, so maybe it's on top of varnish?

Edited 12 hours ago by Sparky Mark

[Reggaebass]

It would be a good idea to go and have a look at it before bidding if possible to see what it’s really like up close 

[Geek99]

11 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

That twisted neck puts me off. Would need serious luthier attention.

 

AFAIK decal on varnish is right for early 60s. Don't know about 64.

I’ve read what people here have written who know far more than me and I agree. Only if it’s cheap … would be my view, and the neck and frets look like trouble brewing

[Geek99]

2 minutes ago, Sparky Mark said:

Headstock from my L serial number 1964 J. Looks like decal is under the varnish to me.

Can you show your neck plate please for comparison- maybe block out some digits