kevin_lindsay Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) The illustrated history book is a fantastic reference tool. The Geddy book is atuffed full of gorgeous basses. The "Febder, The Golden Age" book is droolsome. I got the inspiration for my recent Seafoam Green 50s P-Bass from that book! Edited April 6, 2023 by kevin_lindsay 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 hour ago, mowf said: I bought Geddy's book. Ended up costing me thousands. I am selling my copy if anyone else wants one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Does it come with any of the basses? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 08:53, Richard R said: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&tn=The Fender Bass - An Illustrated History Not that expensive on Abe Books. Cheers. I’ve ordered it. Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 My new vintage P bass arrived in Morecambe last night courtesy of @CHRISDABASS. It’s a lovely thing indeed. Only 8 lbs 9 oz with the covers off, so my back and shoulder are very happy. This has the same 41mm nut width as my ‘73, but has a fuller more rounded neck profile when compared. Quite a difference in the neck profiles in just five years of production. It’s really comfy in the hand though. It will be strung up with flats ASAP. Rob 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, ossyrocks said: My new vintage P bass arrived in Morecambe last night courtesy of @CHRISDABASS. It’s a lovely thing indeed. Only 8 lbs 9 oz with the covers off, so my back and shoulder are very happy. This has the same 41mm nut width as my ‘73, but has a fuller more rounded neck profile when compared. Quite a difference in the neck profiles in just five years of production. It’s really comfy in the hand though. It will be strung up with flats ASAP. Rob That’s a beauty, congrats Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 14:49, Reggaebass said: There’s a 71 P going up for auction next week, might be worth watching https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/mctears-gallery1842/catalogue-id-srmct11822/lot-5f38aa11-b89a-4bcb-ac26-afd601125aef Just this minute sold for £2800 , not me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: Just this minute sold for £2800 , not me So, what will the buyer end up actually paying with 24% buyers premium + VAT? Is that VAT on the buyers premium, or VAT on £2800 + 24%? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, ossyrocks said: So, what will the buyer end up actually paying with 24% buyers premium + VAT? Is that VAT on the buyers premium, or VAT on £2800 + 24%? Rob If it’s VAT on the total, then it goes up to £4166.40. That’s quite a hike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, ossyrocks said: So, what will the buyer end up actually paying with 24% buyers premium + VAT? Is that VAT on the buyers premium, or VAT on £2800 + 24%? Rob I think so , perhaps someone could confirm Buyer`s Premium 24% + VAT Lots purchased online with the-saleroom.com will attract an additional charge for this service in the sum of 4.95% of the hammer price plus VAT at the rate imposed The symbol ** next to a lot number indicates that VAT is payable by the buyer at the standard rate on the day of the auction on the hammer price as well as payable as part of the Buyer's Premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard R Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 24% Buyer's Premium! That's quite a profit for the auction house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddo Soqable Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Richard R said: 24% Buyer's Premium! That's quite a profit for the auction house. That's having your trousers taken down Big stylee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) In guitar shops the VAT only applies to the profit sum on used basses, as full duty would have been paid once upon a time before. So if the bass cost them £200 and they sell it for £300, they only pay VAT on the £100 profit. I presume it’s only VAT on the auction commission of 4.95%. Edited April 7, 2023 by Chiliwailer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said: In guitar shops the VAT only applies to the profit sum on used basses, as full duty would have been paid once upon a time before. So if the bass cost them £200 and they sell it for £300, they only pay VAT on the £100 profit. I presume it’s only VAT on the auction commission of 4.95%. And yet, when importing anything second-hand from abroad, VAT is charged on the whole value, plus the shipping; this, despite the taxes having already being paid when it was bought new. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: And yet, when importing anything second-hand from abroad, VAT is charged on the whole value, plus the shipping; this, despite the taxes having already being paid when it was bought new. Hmm... Not here and not provable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Not here and not provable. Quite right not provabe it’s already been paid here - unless you once went to the States with some blank receipts from the UK guitar shop you used to work for, and bought some nice gear and made up the receipts… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyR Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Waddo Soqable said: That's having your trousers taken down Big stylee I would expect most buyers attending an auction with a serious intention to buy would understand how an auction works and the terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Chiliwailer said: Quite right not provabe it’s already been paid here - unless you once went to the States with some blank receipts from the UK guitar shop you used to work for, and bought some nice gear and made up the receipts… It's not provable if (from France...), I buy second-hand from Germany, either. It's assumed, but not provable. Still, them's the rules, soooooo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: It's not provable if (from France...), I buy second-hand from Germany, either. It's assumed, but not provable. Still, them's the rules, soooooo.... It’s about paying the duty first time to the country you’re in, whether that’s when it’s new, or anytime thereafter when it first enters the county. Unless you can evidence that the country already received the full fat initial tax i.e. with an original receipt. Edited April 7, 2023 by Chiliwailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said: It’s about paying the duty first time to the country you’re in, whether that’s when it’s new, or anytime thereafter when it first enters the county new. Unless you can evidence that the country already received the full fat initial tax i.e. with an original receipt. Such proof is not asked when buying from other EU countries, it's simply assumed. No receipts to produce; VAT just doesn't apply to private s/h sales, s'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, Dad3353 said: Such proof is not asked when buying from other EU countries, it's simply assumed. No receipts to produce; VAT just doesn't apply to private s/h sales, s'all. Doh! Forgot all about pre Brexit already 😂 Got ya now 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: And yet, when importing anything second-hand from abroad, VAT is charged on the whole value, plus the shipping; this, despite the taxes having already being paid when it was bought new. Hmm... Plus when you import from abroad you've just paid the tax to buy the shipping in that country, and then get the privilege to pay it again when it lands here. Great 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_m Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 08:17, ossyrocks said: Can anyone recommend a book about vintage Fender basses? I’d like history, timelines, details of features and changes as they evolved, and lots and lots of lovely pictures. Ta, Rob Couple more books I've got on the shelf in addition to the "Illustrated History" previously mentioned! First one's a tad niche, but is probably my most thumbed book as I'm a bit of an SCPB fanboy... https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781574242546/Fender-Precision-Basses-1951-1954-Schmidt-1574242547/plp And then there's this, which while not strictly bass-related, is full of all sorts of odds and ends and bits and bobs which may be of interest... https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781476817477/Fender-Archives-Scrapbook-Artifacts-Treasures-1476817472/plp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, tony_m said: Couple more books I've got on the shelf in addition to the "Illustrated History" previously mentioned! First one's a tad niche, but is probably my most thumbed book as I'm a bit of an SCPB fanboy... https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781574242546/Fender-Precision-Basses-1951-1954-Schmidt-1574242547/plp And then there's this, which while not strictly bass-related, is full of all sorts of odds and ends and bits and bobs which may be of interest... https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781476817477/Fender-Archives-Scrapbook-Artifacts-Treasures-1476817472/plp Cheers for those. I’ll check ‘em out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I can also recommend this for more general Fender info… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3982909-fender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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