stingrayPete1977 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1487609047' post='3241181'] Well, I don't think so Pete, but judging by some of the posts here it does seem to offend a few.. [/quote] That bit is rather confusing I agree, I can't stand Morrissey so I don't listen to the Smiths, I don't like prawns either but I'll gladly have the soup to start with if someone wants a prawn cocktail too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 [quote name='gazzatriumph' timestamp='1487609372' post='3241186'] I'm sure you are a nice bloke, I just like to have a nice new looking bass and try to keep it like that, I'm not anti relic I just don't get them, horses for courses, Im a nice bloke too [/quote] I get that, I've got a lovely shiny Yamaha Attitude ltd3 (and a ltd2 actually) which I too try to keep pristine. The main thing for me about the Fender Roadworns I have, which are, like Marc, the sunburst P, the sunburst Jazz and the Flea, is they way the necks feel in the hand. To me they just feel very comfortable and I like to feel as comfortable as possible when I play. The necks on the Yamaha Attitudes I have are also very comfortable to me, some people really hate those too. I enjoy playing the Yamahas and the Fender Roadworns pretty much equally. Like you say, horses for courses. Some folks don't get why they make signature models either, I'm a sucker for them quite frankly if it's a player I really like. Apart from the latest incarnation of the Steve Harris Bass, but that's just because of the WHU badge. Anyway, to the original question 'Is anybody getting bored of reliced instruments?' - In summary I'd say, yes, some people are bored of seeing them. But also, some people like them, are not bored of them and will continue to buy them. And then some people will be offended that someone else has bought them, but some people will be pleased for those people that they've bought an instrument that they like. And some people won't care either way. I think there's room in the world for all of those opinions. *Drops mic* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 So many journeys here! I have added a few bits and bobs but here is my 50p's worth on top. I have 3 pristine basses, bought second hand Pristine and will try to keep them that way. Why did I buy the G&Ls - because I like their sound and look of course. I have just bought a Sandberg MarloweDK second hand, it is relic'd, whether you like it or not, but I bought it as primarily I liked the sound and feel of that particular model, pick up configuration etc. Yes it has been roadworn, but I will try to keep it in the condition I received it and hence pristine. I suppose the next thread will be is anyone getting bored of basses with pick guards as essentially they have no use, and are trying to hark back to an old era where even their use for noise cancelling was dubious anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 'pristine roadworn' - priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Tell you what I'm bored of, repeated comments such as - how can a roadworn bass be described as 'pristine' or 'like new'? It's not just on this thread either, just seen it on a Flea Jazz for sale post. YAWN. We all know what those statements [i]actually [/i]mean, i.e., in the same condition as when bought from the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 @spectoremg - I am a funny man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I'm getting bored of anything Dingwall and Darkglass orientated. It's apparently a dream combination... If you think a relic'd bass or guitar is a fad, then fanned frets are right up there as a fad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1487671373' post='3241612'] I'm getting bored of anything Dingwall and Darkglass orientated. It's apparently a dream combination... If you think a relic'd bass or guitar is a fad, then fanned frets are right up there as a fad. [/quote] Well, they do have their fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1487667721' post='3241570'] Tell you what I'm bored of, repeated comments such as - how can a roadworn bass be described as 'pristine' or 'like new'? It's not just on this thread either, just seen it on a Flea Jazz for sale post. YAWN. We all know what those statements [i]actually [/i]mean, i.e., in the same condition as when bought from the shop. [/quote]reminds me of ripped jeans; just like new! Edited February 21, 2017 by prowla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) - Edited February 24, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass_Guardian Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Some relics are nice, some aren't. Edited February 21, 2017 by Bass_Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fftc Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 [quote name='Bass_Guardian' timestamp='1487697329' post='3241952'] Some relics are nice, some aren't. [/quote] I like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 [quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1487691527' post='3241876'] This the sort of thing I was thinking of- I'm not making a case for or against, just looking at what's out there! Does it really work? What do they even [i]do[/i] to the wood? Who knows, but someone is trying to convince someone it's a valid thing. [url="http://www.guitarworld.com/acoustic-nation-yamaha-creates-vintage-tone-new-wood"]http://www.guitarwor...e-tone-new-wood[/url] [/quote] Seasoning wood is the process of getting the moisture out of the wood as the wood dies and stops growing etc. The skill in this is doing it in a way that minimises "movement" in the wood; that's to say splits and warping. There are 2 ways to season wood. You can cut it into usable size pieces and stand it outside in the weather for a year or so, or you can cut it and put it in a kiln to dry it out. These days it's usually done in a kiln because this is cheaper than owning loads of sheds to house years supplies of wood. When wood warps after you buy it, this is usually because it wasn't properly seasoned before it was put on the market. If wood does warp and then stops, it won't warp any more. So if you want you can then re-shape it in the way you want and it'll be pretty reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Accelerating the aging process - interesting article. I don't know for sure but this could be the same as my bro-in-law does with his cello. He's a pro-cellist and on one of his instruments he uses a vibration gadget to sit on the body to shake it to "open it up". That said: https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/19720-acoustic-soundboard-the-sonic-effect-of-time-and-vibration Also, a friend of mine who's a pro classical guitarist says a good guitar is, in his opinion ok for 10 years. After that it's finished as far as he's concerned. So it's each to their own. Sorry for going off topic. Back to dragging your bass about the patio.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnozzalee Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Sometimes they look good in photos, but in your hands they look naff. Supposedly Clive Brown is the best in the business, but I've never seen a Clive Brown in the flesh. Edited February 21, 2017 by Schnozzalee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1487671373' post='3241612'] I'm getting bored of anything Dingwall and Darkglass orientated. It's apparently a dream combination... If you think a relic'd bass or guitar is a fad, then fanned frets are right up there as a fad. [/quote] Well..multiscale is evolution.Also extended range or extended scale basses.Even compount radius,torzal necks and tapered strings are evolution. Is like telling that all the active electronic basses are fad. The relic doesnt afect sound or playability.Its like trying to make a guitar looking epic.The other exaples i give,afects sound or playability and go the instruments one step forther. Oh!dont forget..relic is more worse than lined fretless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I reliced mine and it went well, I didn't touch the hardware as i didn't want to affect the functioning. I rounddd the board edges and the pup cover, all positive changes So what was the result ? My music loving friends (not musos) say it looks cool, people at OM come over and ask to look at it. Kids love it. And that's the point if it as far as I'm concerned; it raises the profile of the electric bass guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 [quote name='Saved' timestamp='1487708336' post='3242096'] Well..multiscale is evolution.Also extended range or extended scale basses.Even compount radius,torzal necks and tapered strings are evolution. Is like telling that all the active electronic basses are fad. [b]The relic doesnt afect sound or playability[/b].Its like trying to make a guitar looking epic.The other exaples i give,afects sound or playability and go the instruments one step forther. Oh!dont forget..relic is more worse than lined fretless.. [/quote] But, you see, IMHO relic'ing does affect the playability when the neck finish is artificially worn. If you mean the [b]setup [/b]is not affected, then yes I agree, but to me the feel of the neck is part of the playability. YMMV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 [quote name='Schnozzalee' timestamp='1487706329' post='3242064'] Sometimes they look good in photos, but in your hands they look naff. Supposedly Clive Brown is the best in the business, but I've never seen a Clive Brown in the flesh. [/quote] Clive is 30 but he looks 65. He's that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 [quote name='Saved' timestamp='1487708336' post='3242096'] Well..multiscale is evolution.Also extended range or extended scale basses.Even compount radius,torzal necks and tapered strings are evolution. Is like telling that all the active electronic basses are fad. The relic doesnt afect sound or playability.Its like trying to make a guitar looking epic.The other exaples i give,afects sound or playability and go the instruments one step forther. Oh!dont forget..relic is more worse than lined fretless.. [/quote] I'm sure the Novak system is from around 1989? Whereas multi scale has been around for a LONG time. It's not necessarily new, but the latest ultra heavy bands are using them so they have taken off a little more. I just don't personally see the issue with normal scale non-fanned fret instruments in the first place...but obviously each to their own! Relic'ing or wearing of the neck can have a positive impact on playability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 How long has the scale extension on a double bass been around, fanned frets pah who needs frets at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think fanned frets are also becoming popular because advances in CNC technology mean that they are easier and more affordable to manufacture, meaning more players buy them, making them more affordable to manufacture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 I thought fanned frets were really cool the first time I noticed them. But they're just a fad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 [quote name='prowla' timestamp='1487803055' post='3243167'] I thought fanned frets were really cool the first time I noticed them. But they're just a fad. [/quote] I quite like mine, as I do my parallel fret basses. Things go in and out of fashion in this and all other worlds. They do play differently, and for those who like them nothing else is quite the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Doesent mean that if something isnt made after 2010 isnt evolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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