stingraybassman Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='Funky Dunky' timestamp='1417017264' post='2616176'] Sweeping generalisation. I speak for myself, and you can't do it for me. I have no interest in album covers. I look, sure, but it has zero influence on my opinion of the music. Videos are entertaining, arguably important, but I'm not talking about album art or videos in my response to the OP. I'm talking about appearance - personal appearance. Image. Clothing. Music does intersect with art, yes, but image does not influence my interest in a band or my enjoyment of their music. It is not important to me. That's what I'm saying. [/quote] I think you might be underestimating your subconscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1417030848' post='2616447'] How about movement on stage..? Left foot in, left foot out, Shadows style..? [...] Maybe everyone on stage should carry a permanent smile? [...] How about a little bow at the end of each number..? [/quote] You entirely forgot to mention giving a little wave to the audience from time to time. Not everyone in the band all at the same time, mind, for obvious reasons. Anyway, I lied earlier when I said I look like a sack of sh*t. This was to make everyone else feel a bit better about themselves. I actually look quite [i]fabulous[/i] on-stage; a total eye-magnet, if you like. [color=#ffffff].[/color] Edited November 26, 2014 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1417035436' post='2616535'] I actually look quite [i]fabulous[/i] on-stage; a total eye-magnet, if you like. [/quote] Yeah, me too. I just bathe the whole place in the glorious light of my charisma and make sounds such as would be heard in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417035991' post='2616541'] Yeah, me too. I just bathe the whole place in the glorious light of my charisma and make sounds such as would be heard in heaven. [/quote] In my case, not so much the latter. But that doesn't really matter since my band role is principally that of Gusset Moistener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1417036151' post='2616546'] ...my band role is principally that of Gusset Moistener. [/quote] We're obviously on the same page here - I do the womb-vibrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1417035436' post='2616535']You entirely forgot to mention giving a little wave to the audience from time to time...[/quote] Now [i]that's[/i] over the top..! One can have too much of a good thing. 'Leave 'em wanting more' an' all that..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417034511' post='2616522'] Necessary, I think. If you're getting function band rates you need to look professional (and sound it obviously, but that's another thread). [/quote] But you don't have to all look the same in black or look like the bar staff... I would say as long as you look smart..having said that, we've had drummers turn up to a black tie looking like he had spent all day working under a tractor ( and he had ) which was NOT funny. I do think you have to know what works where...or is acceptable, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I dont think the band should dress overly smart for black tie gigs if thats not your usual style, you are the entertainment not a guest. I always wear trainers too, black ones if its a posh gig, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1417033651' post='2616510'] It has nothing to do with luck. I find it disappointing when people use being over 50 an excuse for being out of shape. [/quote] Agreed, I watch what I eat and I am fortunate to have a health club almost right next to my condo that I belong to. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='M@23' timestamp='1417029940' post='2616427'] Not sure if you're being sarcastic? [/quote] It was my longer conclusion to the statement I quoted but does look a bit odd without that to refer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 [quote name='stingraybassman' timestamp='1417034882' post='2616524'] I think you might be underestimating your subconscious. [/quote] No, I know my own mind. Would people stop trying to tell me how to think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) I'm always looking for ideas and not afraid to push the wardrobe envelope. I remember Les posted a pic of his band and they wore these cool band jackets. I asked him about them and ended up purchasing 2 of the jackets. I haven't gigged in it yet,I'm not sure I can pull it off Thanks Les Blue Edited November 26, 2014 by blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingraybassman Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 [quote name='Funky Dunky' timestamp='1417043628' post='2616644'] No, I know my own mind. Would people stop trying to tell me how to think? [/quote] Not disputing that, I was talking about the influences that you might not always see. Hence using the word subconscious. I don't want to get in a slugging match, you clearly have your opinion on the subject. Thats cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's widely accepted that the appearance of a plate of food influences how we perceive it's taste, so it stands to reason that the appearance of a band on stage will influence how we perceive the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1417078550' post='2616788'] It's widely accepted that the appearance of a plate of food influences how we perceive it's taste, so it stands to reason that the appearance of a band on stage will influence how we perceive the music. [/quote] And taste has a lot to do with smell, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417080687' post='2616812'] And taste has a lot to do with smell, so... [/quote] I hope people aren't paying too close attention to what I smell like when playing live Edited November 27, 2014 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1417034022' post='2616515'] ... Oh and FFS..no trainers. [/quote] Unless you're in an 80s metal tribute act, in which case I suppose they would be de rigeur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Of course you need to take into account the gig but if you are doing a posh date in LOndon for good money, then you make sure you wear proper shoes... even if you have to change into them. Shoes tell you a lot ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 So a posh venue books a covers band that specialise in Indie covers, blur, oasis etc based on previous bookings of the band and videos on a Web site yet they need to wear shoes because the audience are going to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 How about Crocs?... nothing says you've given up on style quite like a pair of crocs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 [quote name='stingraybassman' timestamp='1417078233' post='2616782'] Not disputing that, I was talking about the influences that you might not always see. Hence using the word subconscious. I don't want to get in a slugging match, you clearly have your opinion on the subject. Thats cool. [/quote] Thanks. I appreciate it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1417083139' post='2616843'] Of course you need to take into account the gig but if you are doing a posh date in LOndon for good money, then you make sure you wear proper shoes... even if you have to change into them. Shoes tell you a lot ... [/quote] They do and they don't. On my random sample of two ladies. One said she looks at shoes and if they're polished well you know the guy has a bit of pride in his appearance. The other one said no one looks at men's shoes. It's all about knowing your audience or even potential audience. For every punter who tells you you're a bit overdressed for a pub gig there'll be another one commenting on how smart you look compared to the regular bands who've not made an effort. Which of these groups, if any, you are trying to impress depends on you. If it's a posh gig and you dress as Blur then you don't turn up as Blur, you get changed into Blur costumes back stage, you do the gig, then you change out afterwards. Push hotels in the West End are slightly different because they have separate entrances for staff and it's unlikely you'll ever be front of house. . Edited November 27, 2014 by TimR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weststarx Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I could never understand a band I went to try out with... We didnt actually play anything much for 6 weeks because they focussed so hard on image. I left pretty sharply because I knew at that rate we'd end up like Black Veil Brides who have a great image but the shittiest music. Personally I think the music comes first and then you can start to look at image. Dont get me wrong, I think it is important to have a good image, because your image, band logos and hairstyles etc etc become your identity as a band. Part of the importance of image is to stand out and be remembered by the people who havent heard of you or seen you play before. Take a look at Slipknot! They wear the masks etc and they have the most recognisable image for a band today. My colleagues at work who have no interest in music or dont like the rock/metal thing have all heard of Slipknot and I bet if you show most people a picture of them they could tell you who they are even if they havnt heard a song. Same again for Kiss. Obviously they are the extreme ends of having an image but they are the proof to my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Shawshank redemption is all I'm saying about the shoe thing, if you have seen it you will get it, if you haven't why haven't you?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Personally I wouldn't dream of even logging on to BassChat without a shave, shower, polished boots and a 3 piece suit with tie, Jeez,, you kids today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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