silky13 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sounds crazy, but I just wanted to check with you guys to see if anyone else has had or heard of this.... I have been playing only my mex precision with all parts precision neck for the past 2/3months. I'm getting back to practicing with cover band this week and so picked up my custom precision with jazz neck. Everytime I do, after 10mins my palm gets really sore. Back to the mex and no issues.... only thing I can think thats different is the neck profile (one being a jazz neck and other being a precision neck!?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sounds logical and if you've been used to one neck for a while then change, then its common to get some discomfort. I would stick with the Jazz for a while to see if the pain goes, but if it doesnt then stop. I play bass 100% of time now (used to be a lead guitarist) and whenever I pick up my acoustic six string for a jam, my palm really hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Could well be the neck profile - I played a jazz profile neck for years but ended up moving to chunkier necks because I just started to find the jazz really uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 i find it difficult to understand getting an uncomfortable hand while playing any neck, unless its maybe an 8 string monster. is it cramp maybe from a tighter hand position.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 "playing the jazz neck" - never heard it called that before [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silky13 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ah ha ha! Good one.... never noticed that! Cheers guys! Yeah I'll batter on with the jazz and see if it loosens up! I think you're probably right it being a cramp type injury from a tighter position but I suppose time will tell! Hopefully it will.loosen off! Id hate to have to ditch that bass altogether! :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1390343626' post='2344428'] i find it difficult to understand getting an uncomfortable hand while playing any neck [/quote] +1. Granted, people have their preferences, but neither should cause any pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 How can the neck be the problem? It has to be the way you're playing it. Lower your strings. Is the strap too high or too low? The "break angle" on your wrist too sharp? Are you over stretching your fingers rather than moving your hand? Do you have a "gorilla grip"? Play with a lighter touch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You said your palm is sore. Is the skin sore, or do the mussels in the hand ache? If the skin is sore, then it's more likely to be that the surface of the neck has become sticky and your skin is getting friction burns when you're moving your hand up and down the neck. I've not had this on a neck, but I have from a computer keyboard. If the neck is getting sticky then you probably need to clean it. How you do that will be dependent on the finish, but if it's lacquer, then a soft soapy cloth is all you need, then dry it thoroughly after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1390386774' post='2344693'] You said your palm is sore. Is the skin sore, or do the mussels in the hand ache? If the skin is sore, then it's more likely to be that the surface of the neck has become sticky and your skin is getting friction burns when you're moving your hand up and down the neck. [/quote] If the skin is sore, then it's more likely to be seriously poor technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Assuming you're in a Heavy Rock/Metal band playing 80's/90's type stuff as mentioned in your "Interests", one could also assume that you're playing songs that are a bit faster than 120bpm? The Jazz neck is not only not as wide as the P bass neck, but thinner as well, could be that you're having to adjust your hand/finger positions for the Jazz, and having to hold your hand that bit tighter than you're used to on the P neck. One possible solution to this would be to get a 2nd hand P bass neck, and put it on the Jazz if you want to keep on using it? Also, how low do you wear the basses on their straps? Might be worth looking at. How do you "warm up" your hand before playing? It's worthwhile doing hand and finger stretching exercises for a while before starting to play (easy enough to do on the way to rehearsals/gigs). Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Jazz basses give me fore-finger ache. I was in agony with it, and then I realised what was causing it. I kind of didn't want to, as I really liked the bass at the time (and hadn't had it long). But sold it on.....problem solved. Edited January 22, 2014 by spongebob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What`s the depth of the neck, as oppose to the width? I find depth far more likely to make my fretting hand sore than width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan670844 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Whats the neck profile on the Jazz? I find with a jazz neck if it has a 7.25 radius it can make your palm sore as opposed to a 9.5. It just requires a different technique. I have learned to adjust my technique accordingly. I have found that on a jazz with a 7.25 i can play things more quickly and cleanly than any other bass. There are some l lines like 'hit me with your rhythm stick' i can only play at the right tempo on a jazz bass with a 7.25. radius, as techniques like a pressure roll and pinching are that much easier. Try looking at you left hand a bit more closely. Playing with your finger pads flatter and centred on the board is a great help, as is working just how little pressure you have to exert on the string on a jazz neck to fret it, if your fingers are in the right position. Its next to nothing! Edited January 27, 2014 by dan670844 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It could be many things but I suspect your grip is too tight. I used to get similar pain in my palm but lightening my grip helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Sore skin - Do you have any sharp frets? Sore muscle - Create more of an arc and space between your palm and neck by placing your thumb further behind the neck whilst gripping (not tightly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1390343810' post='2344432'] "playing the jazz neck" - never heard it called that before [/quote] Yup, a sore palm is very common after playing a jizz neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 As a P bass player, I used to get hand cramp after playing my Geddy Lee Jazz and my '81 Rickenbacker 4001... Both had very thin necks though. In the case of the Jazz, [i]waffer-theen[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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