RhysP Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1370183067' post='2097280'] I've never associated Lemmy with Jetglo - he was a Mapleglo man for years before the 4004LK's. I'm sure this post will be followed by a flurry of pictures showing Lem with a JG - but I've never seen one! You do see him playing a Fireglo in Lemmy - The Movie....looks quite strange! [/quote] I think his old Hawkwind Rick was a fireglo, but that was a 4001s with a dot neck as far as I can recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1370192567' post='2097413'] I think his old Hawkwind Rick was a fireglo, but that was a 4001s with a dot neck as far as I can recall. [/quote] I saw Lemmy with Hawkwind a few times. Strangely enough i don't remember a thing about any of those evenings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1370200782' post='2097554'] I saw Lemmy with Hawkwind a few times. Strangely enough i don't remember a thing about any of those evenings. [/quote] I know that feeling. Apparently I have been to Creamfields. Funked if I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1370200782' post='2097554'] I saw Lemmy with Hawkwind a few times. Strangely enough i don't remember a thing about any of those evenings. [/quote] What? Not even Stacia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1370200782' post='2097554']...Strangely enough i don't remember a thing about any of those evenings. [/quote] All I remember is the pyro being very, very close to the drapery at Kingston Poly. I got out before the place went up. It didn't, as it happened, but it must have been a close call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 If you can remember seeing Hawkwind, you weren't there I assume I've seen them as I have a hazy recollection from 1982 of Nik Turner playing "In The Mood" as the sun rose mystically over Stone'enge, but I put that down to the drugs wearing off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1370204730' post='2097625'] All I remember is the pyro being very, very close to the drapery at Kingston Poly. I got out before the place went up. It didn't, as it happened, but it must have been a close call... [/quote] I saw some great gigs at Kingston Poly. Great memories of that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1370202772' post='2097593'] What? Not even Stacia? [/quote] No. Nothing apart from it was loud. Very loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hey, nice Hondo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1370219528' post='2097806']Hey, nice Hondo![/quote] Odd you should say that… whilst hunting for info earlier I chanced upon an utterly uncorroborated statement that 'Alan' (presumably Alan Davey) had a Hondo 2 as a backup if his Ric failed. So it's [i]very dimly possible[/i] that there [i]might[/i] be a Snaggletooth connection. Question for the experts: As I understand it the 4001S had a set neck, but dot markers & no binding. Was there ever a bound & mother-of-toilet-seat version? If so, the neck plate [i]could[/i] have been lashed on there to bolster up a failing set neck joint. Either way it's as fishy as a fish supper on Friday in Fish Week at Billingsgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1370223690' post='2097825'] Odd you should say that… whilst hunting for info earlier I chanced upon an utterly uncorroborated statement that 'Alan' (presumably Alan Davey) had a Hondo 2 as a backup if his Ric failed. So it's [i]very dimly possible[/i] that there [i]might[/i] be a Snaggletooth connection. Question for the experts: As I understand it the 4001S had a set neck, but dot markers & no binding. Was there ever a bound & mother-of-toilet-seat version? If so, the neck plate [i]could[/i] have been lashed on there to bolster up a failing set neck joint. Either way it's as fishy as a fish supper on Friday in Fish Week at Billingsgate. [/quote] The 4001S had a through neck. There were apparently a few (literally just a few) set neck 4001's produced in the early seventies though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1370223690' post='2097825']...., the neck plate [i]could[/i] have been lashed on there to bolster up a failing set neck joint.... [/quote] Considering the surface area and locked in factor involved in a set neck joint the chances of a fail is slight, obviously not impossible of course but a glued dovetail (or mortise-and-tenon) should in essence be the strongest part of the construction. My only claim to fame connection to Hawkwind was supporting the Hawklords last year. Utterly unforgettable. Great bunch of guys. Adrian and myself (being veggie bassists with a penchant for travel) hit it off immediately. And Snake the stage manager who has a very Lemmy-esque attitude and sense of humour was a blast. They've actually requested us to support them again this year... which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1370164569' post='2097043'] The fact that London's supposed premier bass guitar shop could pass this off as a Rickenbacker reinforces my poor already opinion of the sales department at the Bass Gallery. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Just had a chat with Martin at the Gallery & he's offered the following info:—[list] [*]It's obviously had a life; [*]It appears to be set-neck; [*]The neckplate looks like it's been put on as an afterthought & there's nothing stamped on it; [*]It looks like it's had a respray & was once a FireGlo; [*]Plain binding, not checquered. [/list] They're trying to get hold of the seller to see if they can take it to bits to investigate further, so there's seemingly a question mark or two in Martin's mind. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1370269074' post='2098327'] ......It's obviously had a life; [/quote] Well it's got one up on me then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1370269074' post='2098327'] They're trying to get hold of the seller to see if they can take it to bits to investigate further, so there's seemingly a question mark or two in Martin's mind. [/quote] If there's a question mark or two, it's a good job they didn't try and sell it first for three grand, then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1370134812' post='2096913'] if it's not good enough for Lemmy, it's not good enough for me. [/quote] :-) that made me laugh, out loud style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1370269074' post='2098327'] Just had a chat with Martin at the Gallery & he's offered the following info:—[list] [*]It's obviously had a life; [/list] [/quote] Trade speak for 'it's f***ed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1370276238' post='2098467'] Trade speak for 'it's f***ed'.[/quote] Pretty much. There's a good photblog of T.C Ellis' repair/restoration work on Lemmy's touring 4004LK. F***ed isn't the word… if it were me I'd have started with a caustic soda jet wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1370269952' post='2098342'] If there's a question mark or two, it's a good job they didn't try and sell it first for three grand, then... [/quote] This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1370269952' post='2098342'] If there's a question mark or two, it's a good job they didn't try and sell it first for three grand, then... [/quote] There's no question mark at all IMO. It may have been owned by Lemmy, but it's not a real Rickenbacker! This is the best advice on the net on recognising Rickenfakers: http://www.joeysbassnotes.com/Fakericks.htm . This one falls down on lots of counts, all of which others have already mentioned in this thread. The real biggies are the binding under the bridge, bolt on neck, and fret board inlays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1370152423' post='2096936'] Has anybody had a chat with the Gallery about this? With respect, they [s]may not be the anoraks we are[/s], they might not have the accumulated knowledge we have. [/quote] I emailed Alex some time ago about this - it's wrong on all counts except possibly the Lemmy connection - but he didn't respond; too busy probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I played an ex Lemmy bass at a studio once, it was a 4001 shape with Gibson EP-3 pickups in it. Dog of a bass, played like a bow and arrow. I don't think Lemmy looks after his basses too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I call Hondo! Sure, it has a set neck like some of the single pick-up 4000 series had but it's not that either, due to the binding. And, as has been said, all (AFAIK) authentic Rics' binding stopped behind the bridge. Wrong pups as well for the era. Very surprised that such a shop didn't suss all the above out before putting a dog like that up for £3K!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 [quote name='4000' timestamp='1370297755' post='2098942'] I emailed Alex some time ago about this - it's wrong on all counts except possibly the Lemmy connection - but he didn't respond; too busy probably. [/quote] Or maybe, if they admit it's not his bass then they're stuck with a POS they can't sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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