Highfox Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Hi Guys. I'm after a bit of advice, I'm looking at upgrading/changing my B rig around a bit. I have been using the TC Electronic 2x10 BG500 combo for a good while now and even tho it's able to kick out the watts it's leaving me a little less than happy with it's overall tone. I now have an Ibanez Promethan 5110 combo that I was able to pick up sh locally for a good price. (I sent the 3110 version back as I now have the plan to use this combo for more than home pratice). So long winded question is I'm aiming to pair it with a 112, and as I have some credit at Thomann I think I'll be buying from there (postage is a killer to Finland for any used cabs from Basschat unfortunately) So within budget is The EBS classic 112 or the GK 112 neo II ? Weight is not a huge factor as the cab would be left at rehearsals and the combo dragged home. Or as I like the sound of 12's would I be better off getting something like the 8ohm GK 212 and just drag the head around? Any thoughts. Anyone tried these, or any other option's within budget? Cheers. Edited December 11, 2012 by Highfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 only have good things to say about my hartke hydrive 112, its switchable between 4 and 8 ohms so can be used on its own or you can combine with another for a really nice rig. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I've seen good reviews for the Hartke Hydrive 112 on TB. I have no idea if it would match your combo though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I use 2 x GK Neo 112-ii cabs. Great sound, size, build & price. Not sure what one would sound like though, always played through 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1355217741' post='1895383'] only have good things to say about my hartke hydrive 112, its switchable between 4 and 8 ohms so can be used on its own or you can combine with another for a really nice rig. andy [/quote] I`ve heard one of these being used and they have a very nice sound in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1355229327' post='1895579'] I`ve heard one of these being used and they have a very nice sound in the mix. [/quote] im considering grabbing another be cool if they did a 212! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1355230297' post='1895598'] im considering grabbing another be cool if they did a 212! [/quote] Looks in your sig like you have one to trade! Thanks everyone so far.. Hard when I can't A-B them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'm going to watch this with interest I really would like to replace my 212 with a 112. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1355230439' post='1895602'] Looks in your sig like you have one to trade! Thanks everyone so far.. Hard when I can't A-B them. [/quote] yeh just incase, having second thoughts tho as i love it and have had no intrest! andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1355230463' post='1895603'] I'm going to watch this with interest I really would like to replace my 212 with a 112. [/quote] Just the one..??? I'd be adding another as soon as. The benefit being you get the same sound but easier to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1355236984' post='1895749'] Just the one..??? I'd be adding another as soon as. The benefit being you get the same sound but easier to carry. [/quote] Ideally I'd find a single sub-30lb 112 that I could gig without PA support. Don't even know if that's possible but that's the aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1355253606' post='1896033'] Ideally I'd find a single sub-30lb 112 that I could gig without PA support. Don't even know if that's possible but that's the aim. [/quote] Hate to say it, but unless you pickup a Baer ML112 or a Thunderchild 112 you are going to struggle...a lot. Even with those it still won't throw that much volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1355255746' post='1896080'] Hate to say it, but unless you pickup a Baer ML112 or a Thunderchild 112 you are going to struggle...a lot. Even with those it still won't throw that much volume. [/quote] Even a Barefaced Midget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1355255971' post='1896084'] Even a Barefaced Midget? [/quote] Well, I have no experience of that cabinet, and it might hold up enough mid range to give you enough volume. Personally, it wouldn't be my choice. I'd go for an Aguilar DB112 x 2. Its a tried an tested amazing tone. Not light...45lbs each, but worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1355262573' post='1896195'] Well, I have no experience of that cabinet, and it might hold up enough mid range to give you enough volume. Personally, it wouldn't be my choice. I'd go for an Aguilar DB112 x 2. Its a tried an tested amazing tone. Not light...45lbs each, but worth it. [/quote] Or Aggie GS112 x 2 if you want a fatter less mid-gutsy tone, a stonkingly good combination... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) So that's recommendations for 2 cabs weighing about 90lb total, for someone asking if they could get a 1 cab solution weighing under 30lb?! A typical neo 212 weighs under 60lb and is plenty by lots of people's standards...([i]edit:[/i] not disputing the tonal qualities of the aggies which a lot of people really like) Personally I could get by gigging with a mid-level 112 for a lot of indoor scenarios, but if you wanted the 'biggest' 112 sound you could get in a reasonable lightweight form and had the watts to drive them, then the BF Big Baby, Vanderkley 112MNT or even Kappalite-loaded BFM Jack 112 have the best output potential IMO. The choice depends a lot on preferred voicing for me - where you want the volume has a big impact. Edited December 11, 2012 by LawrenceH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1355265234' post='1896233'] So that's recommendations for 2 cabs weighing about 90lb total, for someone asking if they could get a 1 cab solution weighing under 30lb?! A typical neo 212 weighs under 60lb and is plenty by lots of people's standards...([i]edit:[/i] not disputing the tonal qualities of the aggies which a lot of people really like) Personally I could get by gigging with a mid-level 112 for a lot of indoor scenarios, but if you wanted the 'biggest' 112 sound you could get in a reasonable lightweight form and had the watts to drive them, then the BF Big Baby, Vanderkley 112MNT or even Kappalite-loaded BFM Jack 112 have the best output potential IMO. The choice depends a lot on preferred voicing for me - where you want the volume has a big impact. [/quote] It was just a suggestion. Personally I'd prefer the Baer ML112 over your suggestions but only from a tone point of view, although the Vanderkley might tick the boxes. The Gallien Neo 112-II would be a good well priced solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1355267114' post='1896264'] It was just a suggestion. Personally I'd prefer the Baer ML112 over your suggestions but only from a tone point of view, although the Vanderkley might tick the boxes. The Gallien Neo 112-II would be a good well priced solution. [/quote] That's interesting - what makes you prefer the Baer Ml112 over the Vanderkley? I really need to use lightweight gear but I haven't heard either. How does the Baer 112 sound? Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I've been using a single Ashdown Mi12 for all of my gigs since they came out and I'm really happy with it-it basically took over from my Bergantino HS410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) [quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1355268120' post='1896283'] That's interesting - what makes you prefer the Baer Ml112 over the Vanderkley? I really need to use lightweight gear but I haven't heard either. How does the Baer 112 sound? Frank. [/quote] Ah. Only going on tone profile reviews I'm afraid and what Baer state is their tone goal with the ML112. Edited December 11, 2012 by Musicman20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 For me at least I'm on a bit of a budget, this is for a B rig. I'd go the Aggies if I had the money love the look and the sound I've heard from them. I think I'll go the GK 112 neo route and maybe add another at some point. Or move it on if I'm not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I've not played the GK112 neo, but have the 2x12 (and I have heard that tonally they are virtually indistinguishable). Great, great cabs. I doubt you'll be disappointed. But, as others have said, only one 12" speaker will have it's finite volume limits. You will find out it one is enough though I guess. And you have a plan B of getting another so you seem to have covered all bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1355268610' post='1896292'] I've been using a single Ashdown Mi12 for all of my gigs since they came out and I'm really happy with it-it basically took over from my Bergantino HS410. [/quote] So a single 12 took over from your 4x10. That's quite some testament to the abilities of the Ashdown. Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I saw a band in Leicester a couple of weeks ago and the bassist was using an Ashdown MiBass with the matching 1x12 cab and it sounded huge. I'm pretty sure it wasn't DI'd but it cranked out some serious bass! Personally I'm not keen on the looks, but when they start appearing second hand I'll be seriously lookin at them. It's the first time I think I've actually liked the tone from an Ashdown rig. Of course it could be to do with the bassists fingers.... Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1355304403' post='1896502'] Of course it could be to do with the bassists fingers.... Truckstop [/quote] Maybe his fingers were DI'd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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