uke Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Wouldn't Jon Shuker have his details if he did the conversion on the bass ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Only just seen this thread now. All I can say is wow. Unbelievable arrogance met with patience I can't really comprehend on behalf of 73 Jazz. I do hope the situation gets resolved, although I'd be incredibly tempted to chase up a refund as this guy quite obviously doesn't deserve your money or indeed your precious time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkonthehill Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='uke' timestamp='1327102899' post='1506614'] Wouldn't Jon Shuker have his details if he did the conversion on the bass ? [/quote] Data Protection would come into this,,,,,plus you wouldnt want to put any type of pressure on someone to hand over info that has got nothing to do with this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='roonjuice' timestamp='1327087577' post='1506388'] Consider me in for £20 for the "73jazz-patience of a saint" fund. [/quote] +1 could the mods set up something where we can send this. I think this is an excellent way of restoring the sense of community that Sean has fractured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73Jazz Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) After the informations that have been provided by a great bc member, this isn't the first time that sean dealt with that kind of style. One bc member told me of a deal where sean tried to fool him with the amount of money he handed over. Additional to this, he sold car parts/items, took the money but didn't ship the sold items..so this one is a parallel story. Seems that i bought a bass from the wrong guy Edited January 22, 2012 by 73Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1946 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I really hope this gets sorted my friend, just as well people like him are a very small minority. I've been there myself and the person concerned is now banned. Very best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='73Jazz' timestamp='1327250332' post='1508323'] After the informations that have been provided by a great bc member, this isn't the first time that sean dealt with that kind of style. One bc member told me of a deal where sean tried to fool him with the amount of money he handed over. Additional to this, he sold car parts/items, took the money but didn't ship the sold items..so this one is a parallel story. Seems that i bought a bass from the wrong guy [/quote] What a scrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Id go to the police its fraud and they would have no problem getting his address from Mr Shuker skez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bw_user_name Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Skezza' timestamp='1327263274' post='1508599'] Id go to the police its fraud and they would have no problem getting his address from Mr Shuker skez [/quote] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Skezza' timestamp='1327263274' post='1508599'] Id go to the police its fraud and they would have no problem getting his address from Mr Shuker skez [/quote] +1 Lets stop any more innocent folk getting ripped off. Alternately we let him carry on and wait for Karma to take its course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Any news from Matt and Tom. I think if no luck from Moderators then definately go to Police. I personally would go to the Police even if Moderators resolve. This guy Sean should be off our streets and locked up. Complete waste of space by the sound of it. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [b] Sean has a Basschat member called[/b] [b] tremblap[/b] listed as a friens he may have his number people who have traded with him may have a phone number Once you have a phone number (mobile or land) you can get an address skez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 If the mods have archived (pre the change to the new interface) PMs between members they are welcome to search back through mine as I'm sure that I had contact with him some years back regarding a deal which never came to fruition; his number may be in those PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngh Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1327268158' post='1508706'] Any news from Matt and Tom. I think if no luck from Moderators then definately go to Police. I personally would go to the Police even if Moderators resolve. This guy Sean should be off our streets and locked up. Complete waste of space by the sound of it. Dave [/quote] Quite a bit is going on behind the scenes, can't make it public though just yet. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 It isn't a Police issue. It's a civil law dispute in regard to failing to comply with contractual terms. It is a small claims matter that can be dealt with the money claims online system as long as you are wanting a refund (You can't use the online system to obtain an Order for him to deliver up the goods. That is called "Specific performance" and is hardly ever ordered by the court anyway) If you have his name and postal address then you just fill in the form and pay the small court fee. The court serves the papers on the Defendant, he then gets 21 days to acknowledge it. If he ignores it then on day 22 you ask the Court to enter "Judgment in Default" If you still don't get an answer, then 14 days after that you fill in another form on the website and the Court sends the bailiffs in. The Court Fee gets added to his debt. Honestly - stop f***ing about and give him both barrels. While the offers of a fund from other BC'ers is lovely all it does is spread the loss over more people. It doesn't solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1327312396' post='1509003'] It isn't a Police issue. It's a civil law dispute in regard to failing to comply with contractual terms. It is a small claims matter that can be dealt with the money claims online system as long as you are wanting a refund (You can't use the online system to obtain an Order for him to deliver up the goods. That is called "Specific performance" and is hardly ever ordered by the court anyway) If you have his name and postal address then you just fill in the form and pay the small court fee. The court serves the papers on the Defendant, he then gets 21 days to acknowledge it. If he ignores it then on day 22 you ask the Court to enter "Judgment in Default" If you still don't get an answer, then 14 days after that you fill in another form on the website and the Court sends the bailiffs in. The Court Fee gets added to his debt. Honestly - stop f***ing about and give him both barrels. While the offers of a fund from other BC'ers is lovely all it does is spread the loss over more people. It doesn't solve the problem. [/quote] I have to agree that unless there are behind the scenes 'active' movements, I'd go with this and to hell with getting the bass! The CCJ against Sean will scr3w any future chance of credit for him and affects all sorts of ratings that will impact on him directly, hopefully teaching him a well deserved lesson in life... which IMHO he doesn't 'appear' to be taking seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If the buyer wants some help with the court process then I'm more than willing. Gratis of course. I like to do a bit of pro bono work every year. Not that he'll need it really, the online system is great for money claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 [quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1327269988' post='1508749'] If the mods have archived (pre the change to the new interface) PMs between members they are welcome to search back through mine as I'm sure that I had contact with him some years back regarding a deal which never came to fruition; his number may be in those PMs. [/quote] Yes me too! Mods feel free to look through mine too - I can't seem to find it in my mails. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Transaxle Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 How easy is it for a German resident to go through the UK small claims court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Any EU resident has full access to the courts in all member states. The court may ask for a UK postal address for correspondence, but I doubt that would be a problem between the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREA Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hi there, 1st: @73Jazz...Hey Maurice, what a Story. Hope you'll get your Bass or your Money soon. Good Luck for you and kind Regards....Thomas 2nd: Great Support from all the honourable Members here. Chapeau to you all. I've also done some Deals here and also in many other Boards. In Germany of Course, but also in UK, USA and in the Netherlands and never have any Problems. Not as a Buyer, nor as a Seller. Eyerything was allways fine. I can't help myself, I believe in something like "Honour" between Musicians and It is really a Shame to read something like that, but...Hey Guys... this could happen in any Board around the World. Black Sheeps and A..ho..s are everywhere. Hope we get this "done"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 [quote name='uke' timestamp='1327102899' post='1506614'] Wouldn't Jon Shuker have his details if he did the conversion on the bass ? [/quote] I'd love to hear what he says about this bass. I dunno it just doesn't look his style to me. (my 1st post was sarcasm btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnut62 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 John Shuker is a sound guy and friend of honourable musicians everywhere. I speak from personal experience of the man and one of his early basses I once owned. I'm sure he would be assist if it can be done through proper channels. However like someone just mentioned, that 8 string conversion just doesnt sound like work he would have done. Anyway count me in for a contribution to the The Let's-Help-Our-Brother-Bass-Player-Out-Of-A-Hole Fund, if he doesn't get no satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I'm getting bored with this bullshit. Someone give me all the address details, copy emails & PMs, payment dates etc etc and I'll do the legal work. The only money the buyer will have to put in are the court fees (not a lot at all) - those fees will be added to the vendor's debt. The buyer needs to get the money back. I wouldn't trust getting the instrument now. And if no one has the address details then get me what you do have. There are a few investigators I use regularly that owe me a favour. Edited January 23, 2012 by fretmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Awesome, love BC so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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