JakeBrownBass Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1319471813' post='1414527'] Big kits are for big stages and[b] big egos[/b]. [/quote] Not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Rumple' timestamp='1319469341' post='1414460'] You need a cheap electronic kit for a bit of home practice. [/quote] I've thought about it a lot. I've got a V Drum practice thing that I do my rudiments and stick control stuff on http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=715&c=62 Trouble is when I played drums last month my feet didn't work any more It's a shame as I used to be OK at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumple Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1319474472' post='1414594'] I've thought about it a lot. I've got a V Drum practice thing that I do my rudiments and stick control stuff on [url="http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=715&c=62"]http://www.roland.co...aspx?p=715&c=62[/url] Trouble is when I played drums last month my feet didn't work any more It's a shame as I used to be OK at it. [/quote] Ah yes you might need something with pedals for kick and HH's practice, I'm sure the technique would come back soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckendrick Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1319468378' post='1414431'] 2 of my best mates are drummers and a bloody good one at that so i've never had to experience these issue's [/quote] Which one's the good one? And is he available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckendrick Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='EdwardHimself' timestamp='1319469165' post='1414454'] Firstly, not a lot of people play the drums.... you need endurance to play a lot of songs, not just in your fingers or hands, but your arms and legs and maybe even your body as a whole.[/quote] I'll take that as an insult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I have been blessed with playing alongside some great drummers over the last few years, I cant complain really This is one of our drummers, anyone that uses samples and midi stuff may be playing with him too but you just dont know it [url="http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/18/6TqQjEnTMq4"]http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/18/6TqQjEnTMq4[/url] This was him as a kid :0 [url="http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/16/JS-FxK-CkfI"]http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/16/JS-FxK-CkfI[/url] And this is for the smart arse thats about to say well its alright beating the hell out of a kit [url="http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/17/HXTu8Mee4EY"]http://www.youtube.com/user/joeblanks?blend=10&ob=5#p/u/17/HXTu8Mee4EY[/url] Some idiots on youtube say stuff about it all being good but I bet he cant play straight etc, Beleive me Ive been playing in bands for 20 years and he is the tightest drummer I have ever known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Isn't it the often the supply and demand laws in action? For reasons set out above, fewer people play the drums. As a result, it appears to be possible to hold down a place in a band with a lower level of ability than it would be for bass. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man in king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1319471813' post='1414527'] Big kits are for big stages and big egos. [/quote] Don't be ridiculous. That's the same old crap as saying "basses should only be 4 strings" or "guitars should all be tuned to standard". As I said before I'm sure your drummer's configuration works perfectly well for what you're doing in your band but that doesn't mean it works everywhere. Certainly for the songs I do i find myself playing all my drums and cymbals and one point or another, they shouldn't be played all the time but even if you only hit it once then it serves a purpose and it's better to have it there and only need it once then need it and not have it at all. [quote name='mckendrick' timestamp='1319477088' post='1414656'] I'll take that as an insult. [/quote] In my 6 years of playing bass I'm yet to experience the type of full body fatigue that drumming brings on from playing the bass. It's not supposed to be an insult, bass has it's own set of challenges Edited October 25, 2011 by EdwardHimself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='EdwardHimself' timestamp='1319479267' post='1414712'] Don't be ridiculous. That's the same old crap as saying "basses should only be 4 strings" or "guitars should all be tuned to standard". Personally I tend to judge a musician on what they sound like rather than what they're playing but that's just me. [b]In my 5 years of playing bass[/b] I'm yet to experience the type of full body fatigue that drumming brings on from playing the bass. It's not supposed to be an insult, bass has it's own set of challenges [/quote] 5 years of playing..??? I'm sorry but that says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1319479912' post='1414724'] 5 years of playing..??? I'm sorry but that says it all. [/quote] 5 years of learning and opening my mind towards all aspects of music, not just being a bass player is better than 25 years of being set in my ways. Edited October 24, 2011 by EdwardHimself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I like drummers who hit cymbals to make a point. The ones that go SMASH CRASH SPLASH SPLASH RING A DING DING SMASH do my head in. It's exhausting to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1319479912' post='1414724'] 5 years of playing..??? I'm sorry but that says it all. [/quote] EH is simply saying that in the time he's been playing, he has generally found it more tiring to play the drums than play the bass. Entirely uncontroversial point and one to which most of us would subscribe if we've done it. Edited October 24, 2011 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='EdwardHimself' timestamp='1319479949' post='1414725'] 5 years of learning and opening my mind towards all aspects of music, not just being a bass player is better than 25 years of being set in my ways. [/quote] It is good that you consider that you have an open mind and long may that continue. I am sure I know players of 25 years who have not moved one bit and they are happy enough but a diverse input is good, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='funkygreega' timestamp='1319450151' post='1414088'] I wish every budding drummer would stop and pay attention to John Robinson. The world would be a much better place. [/quote] Quincy Jones and John Robinson, both a bit 'Off the Wall' got 'So Excited' they partied 'All Night Long' - and the rest was history, as they say. Top Drummer.... Garry Edited October 24, 2011 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1319484161' post='1414795'] Quincy Jones and John Robinson, both a bit 'Off the Wall' got 'So Excited' they partied 'All Night Long' - and the rest was history, as they say. Top Drummer.... Garry [/quote] He must had have something abiout him as he was on just about everything for 5 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilby Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Caught an interesting programme on radio 4 presented by Stuart Copeland last year about drummers and they spoke about their fitness. There's is/or has been some serious research being done with Clem Burke (?) from Blondie. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7518888.stm (haven't got my head around links using iPhone, just google "drummer fitness study" and it should be at the top). Edited October 24, 2011 by Gilby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 It is a decent point, admittedly. We have to regulate the type of work we do ..as in doubling up on dates..as the drummers just can't physically do it anymore. Suits me..we only do 2 hrs max... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm lucky enough to have played with some great drummers. One of my old band mates is currently playing with Tim Minchin---he's also played with the likes of the Streets, Massive Attack, Newton Faulkner...to say that I'm jealous would be an understatement! The drummer in my current band is also great (not that I'd ever tell him that!!). It makes such a big difference having someone good behind the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1319485481' post='1414835'] He must had have something abiout him as he was on just about everything for 5 years or so. [/quote] I think it was a bit more than that. Still going strong, The sound track of his credits is playing on his website, snippets just going on and on. Some fantastic stuff, and tracks i did not realise he played on, Pretty serious. [url="http://www.johnjrrobinson.com/#!__discography"]http://www.johnjrrob...#!__discography[/url] [url="http://www.johnjrrobinson.com/"]http://www.johnjrrobinson.com/[/url] Garry Edited October 24, 2011 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Gilby' timestamp='1319486617' post='1414857'] There's is/or has been some serious research being done with Clem Burke (?) from Blondie.[/quote] Ah, Clem Burke. Perfect candidate. A frenetic, "round the kit, whoops, there goes the beat" sticksman if ever there was. Sacked by The Ramones after 3 dates for being "too sloppy", IIRC. The shame. Edited October 24, 2011 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Anyone heard a drum solo that was more than just an opportunity for a fag/toilet break? Just wondered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 On the Primus DVD I have there's a great drum solo I play drums for a couple of bands. When it's reggae/hip hop sort of stuff, it's quite easy to be honest. I push myself to keep it interesting, but some would say I over play. I really don't care 'cos the band seems to like what I do! Playing fairly heavy rock is a totally different experience, and I can play about an hour at the most before I keel over. The more we practise the longer I can go, but it's still the most excercise i've ever done in my life!! Playing bass gives me occasional wrist pains but generally I could play all day long with no problem no matter what style of music. I've played gigs without a full kit though. Kick snare and a cymbal will do for me, but I like to have everything there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1319527821' post='1415101'] Anyone heard a drum solo that was more than just an opportunity for a fag/toilet break? Just wondered. [/quote] I agree that drum solos at gigs can be a bit of a waste of time, just like a bass solo would be having said that, I do think a lot of bands tend to add random crap into their sets to fill into the gaps, good as thing as any to have I would have thought? [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1319482331' post='1414771'] EH is simply saying that in the time he's been playing, he has generally found it more tiring to play the drums than play the bass. Entirely uncontroversial point and one to which most of us would subscribe if we've done it. [/quote] Indeed skank. I'm aware that at age 20 I might not have the same experience of music as many on here. I don't think that invalidates my opinion though, I can only tell you things from my experience. For example when it was 10°C in my room still having to take my sweater off when I'd finished playing a song on the drums because that's how hot i'd gotten. Edited October 25, 2011 by EdwardHimself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1319527821' post='1415101'] Anyone heard a drum solo that was more than just an opportunity for a fag/toilet break? Just wondered. [/quote] Generally I'd agree with you, but there is one drummer who can do all the solos he likes as far as I'm concerned. Much better live though. http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/jonhisemandrumsolo.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Orange Monkey Love God' timestamp='1319453941' post='1414152'] Who is this John Robinson of whom you speak? [/quote] Really? http://www.allmusic.com/artist/john-jr-robinson-p119373/credits/date-asc/ Just check out Michael Jackson 'Off The Wall' and Quincy Jones 'The Dude' for his awesome groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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