Doctor J

I'll keep that in mind, Pete Thanks, everyone. Lots to digest there, lots for me to start checking out.

I've never met a Bacchus I didn't like, can't tell you more than that

[quote name='El Bajo' timestamp='1338389872' post='1673774'] just a bit ruthless when it comes to music and views people as expendable if they don't pull their weight... [/quote] You know something, the older I get the more I see that as an admirable quality, that every band needs someone like that.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1338378212' post='1673478'] I suppose what I`m trying to say is, where`s the solidarity between us low-enders? Do we automatically side with guitarists or producers, without hearing the evidence, over one of our own? [/quote]Even the OP hasn't heard the final tracks so saying he should listen to the end result first and then make his call when he knows how the land lies is surely a reasonable suggestion? [quote]All the parts that I thought where clever and added value and basically my style. And I know what he would have recorded, very simplistic in the pocket bass lines[/quote]The OP has alluded to playing outside the pocket over, in his own words, [quote]pretty simple metal but very catchy[/quote] So there seems to be a clash of ideologies to start off with. Again, it's all fluff because, until the final mixes are done no-one can say what's right and what isn't. Whatever about band solidarity, a producer from outside the circle will have no such allegiances and do what he thinks is best for the song... and here we are

[quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1338375034' post='1673405'] I do that a lot, I retract my comment. [/quote] Well played

He's got his own thing going called Ultrafoxx, the stuff on their myspace is alright but nothing amazing.

Have you actually heard what he played yet? It might be worth cooling the jets and taking on board how it all sounds as a final mix, which is the important thing. What might sound ok when it's just you and the guitarist might genuinely sound too busy when there are vocals, multi tracked guitars and all the rest of the padding are added in. I'd hold fire until I had time to see if I felt they were right. By your own account, songs were changed and you didn't nail some parts. If the guy has invested a lot of his own money and he's got a producer telling him this should change and that should change and you weren't available, you might have done the same thing in his situation. Like it or not, Metal is all about all about being tight and powerful. Sometimes non-standard basslines don't work in that context. If they've changed your parts, it doesn't sound like they've done it to spite you, it sounds like time was tight and the guitarist and producer had a vision they were working towards. The whole project sounds a little underprepared going into the studio. If you hadn't heard the vocals and your experience of the music was flling space with your bass in instrumental songs, then it sounds to me like there'd be a pretty good chance than things might get in the way of each other. If it really wasn't working, would you insist the song suffers so you get to keep a more interesting bassline? I've produced demos for bands and had situations where guys were underprepared, didn't know the songs, didn't know their parts and some just couldn't play. I've never had a problem suggesting that someone else plays the right part to the requisite standard. If people are investing money into a recording then the final product needs to be as good as it can be to the end listener. Bear in mind, Pete Townshend didn't do much playing on Can't Explain. It happens. As I said, listen to the finished product and see how it sounds. It really is all about the song as a whole, not the bass, not the guitar, the song. If you still feel the music is lacking then maybe it's not the right situation for you. If it sounds right when you hear the final mix, maybe you can take it on the chin and learn from the situation.

Thanks, I'll have a look at them. Has anyone tried the Genz Benz Shuttle 6.2?

Against my better judgement it looks like I might be getting back into a regular rehearsal/gigging situation again and I'm thinking about picking up a small amp head to take some of the lug out of lugging. Amps have never been a big deal to me so I'm not entirely learned as regards what's out there. I'm looking for something small and light, the kind of thing you might fit in a gig bag, doesn't need to be more than 500W, I reckon. I'd need two speaker outs, not a combined speakon/jack however, two seperate outputs. Tonally, if it could do a bit of dirt, that would be nice. A decent DI output would be good too. If I can keep it under about £600/€700 that would be just tickety boo. I don't need anything outrageuous, tonally, or onboard effects or other gimmicks, the simpler the better as far as I'm concerned. This is a rock band, so I need a bit of ooomph but I don't see myself needing 1.21 gigawatts, if you know what I mean. The Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 looks decent but my knowledge and experience of them doesn't go beyond their preamps. So, good people of basschat, if you have any experience of this kind of thing I'd appreciate hearing your experience and opinions. Thanks in advance.

Hot Dog! [i]That[/i] is a spicy meatball!

Make sure you're not boosting any bands with the preamp. Set the preamp flat, then try it.

You get nothing for nothing, so it stands to reason that you'd get very little for very little. Is there about an inch of wood between the scratchplate and the end of the body along the bottom edge? Usually people end up ploughing money into these things and finally declare they've got a good bass when, if they'd just bought a good bass with the money in the first place, they could have saved themselves the time and hassle

I know quite a few like that, it was the reason I opted to play guitar in my last band My best mate many, many years ago was like that. He was fantastic at sweeping and arpeggios and all kinds of lead w***ery but simply couldn't hold a rhythm to save his life. Still, he was a mate, so we started a band where the drummer and I just jammed (there was no point writing songs, he'd never remember) and he fluted around while another mate did some stream of consciousness vocals over it. It was as good and as bad as it sounds but we got almost two years of gigging out of it. Sometimes we would throw in a cover of Paranoid (we were all huge Sabbath fans) but he couldn't even play that right.

That's quite a collection, very nice. Good to see I'm not the only person who likes a green bass.

Thankee. It's a very comfortable piece of kit, the neck is great, it really is.

[quote name='jonthebass' timestamp='1337677900' post='1663686'] Just want to vent and moan 'cos I'm fuming AND p!ssed off right now! I bought a Fender CS Masterbuilt Precision bass from Session Music/Musik Schmidt just over 2 weeks ago: [url="http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Fender-Custom-Shop-1970-Precision-Bass-Master-Built-CC-BLK.html"]http://www.musik-sch...ilt-CC-BLK.html[/url] Anyway it turned up and was looking good until I tuned it up for the first time... The truss rod had either broken or was completely loose inside the neck due to it rattling when you tapped the back of the neck behind the nut, just like my Bravewood did when its' truss rod went. So back went the bass for a refund and while leaving me sweating a bit over waiting for them to refund me at their leisure I got the double whammy of CC currency exchange charges for my trouble. So it has cost me about £85 for a refund on a faulty bass Anyway, lesson learned and I will only be buying a UK based instrument that I can either try first or get on good recommendation off here from now on and negate any other pesky charges Thanks for listening! Jon [/quote]Did you try to tighten the truss rod? It really takes a lot of force to break them (much more than a low temperature in an aircraft hold can do).

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1337628907' post='1663190'] its quite a pretty bass [/quote]Yes it is

Bacchus make amazing instruments, I'm definitely a big fan. As mentioned, Deviser are the parent company and make instruments under the names of Headway, STR, Seventy Seven, Momose and more. It's all hand made, incredibly high quality, low number stuff. I received my last one just a few weeks ago, it makes me smile just thinking about it. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/173747-there-aint-no-day-like-a-new-bass-day"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/173747-there-aint-no-day-like-a-new-bass-day[/url] Now where are your pics?

I enjoy playing and I enjoy bass as a design form too, you know what I mean? I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm a collector. I'm an enthusiast of the instrument as well a player of one. The first thing I do with any new instrument is strip it down, see how all the parts work together. I'm not the kind of person who'd have ten Jazz basses or ten Stingrays, multiples of the same thing, I just don't see the point, but I do see the logic in a variety of different basses which follow different design philosophies. I enjoy the differences, the nuances which make one bass different from the next. There is a lot of variety and creativity in the world of bass which I find fascinating and, as long as the bills get paid, I don't see a problem in pursuing that interest. As vices go, I think it's a pretty minor one. That being said, if a bass doesn't move me or falls too much under the shadow of another I move it on. As a result, I don't see an end to GAS, but I just don't see the harm in it either. I don't eat the same thing for dinner every day, I don't wear the same style of clothes every day, so why would I stick to just one bass for the rest of my life either? Why would you restrict yourself, for what purpose? I don't want to beat GAS, I see GAS as a sign that the world hasn't broken me down just yet, there's still a spark in me, a continuing fascination in the instrument I first loved as a fourteen year old boy. Long may it continue!

That's a complicated situation alright so hugs first Definitely put up ads, be clear about what you're looking for, if it's just someone to jam with to improve both your playing levels without getting to gigging band levels, just say so. I guarantee you're not the only person in that position, but never be afriad to give something you think is over your level a go. You might just surprise yourself. As for playing with your ex, it's been along time so theoretically there shouldn't be a problem, but I can see why you'd be concerned and why you think the new woman would be concerned too. It would be a shame for your musical collaboration to end for this reason though, as you both seem to enjoy it.

Welcome

The more experienced you are, the better your ability to recognise how far away you are from being an expert.

Keep your eyes on the prize, it'll be worth it.

I demand more and bigger pics