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[quote name='alexharvay' post='867955' date='Jun 15 2010, 12:45 PM']I went from a 410 to a 212. I'm back with a 410 now and much happier. Try 12s in the shop, see how you get on.[/quote] Good post, its down to personal preference on this one. 12s do have a more low mid focus to me, and I like that. Chewy is the description I use! [quote name='chris_b' post='867961' date='Jun 15 2010, 12:52 PM']If I already used a DB210 my first choice would be to add another DB210. Surely that would tick all the boxes? I know there's a “buzz” around Bergantino but Aguilar DB’s are just as good.[/quote] Again, Chris could be hitting it on the head here. Bergantino are fantastic, but then again you already have a fantastic cabinet. Its all down to your ears. If you must go Berg, then Id listen to them first then decide which you prefer.

2x12. If you dont need REALLY HIGH volumes, which no doubt the 2x12 can do anyway, id go with the 2x12. The AE410 has huge amounts of volume capabilities. I had never used 12s until May last year, and now I really like the tone.

I sense that you arent very happy with the wait?

If Thomann had these in stock I would probably order one at that price!

[quote name='oliverw92' post='867299' date='Jun 14 2010, 07:06 PM']I agree with you about the hifi sound of the Genz Benz - the only youtube i found of it, i didn't like the sound. However i found some videos of the Promethean, and like you said, it sounds like a Markbass! We use a Markbass CMD121H in my Jazz band (unfortunately it isn't mine ) and the Promethean was very similar to the 121H - shocked me a little bit![/quote] The Genz is VERY clean and quite Hifi. Great for certain players. Markbass has a little more warmth, and great pure sound.

[quote name='eude' post='866839' date='Jun 14 2010, 11:05 AM']I believe so... Even if it fluctuates a little, it's still a lot less than anywhere in the UK... I've got a gig on the 18th, after that I'll try and shift my mini rig ASAP, then pull the trigger on the Promethean Eude[/quote] Its is MEGA cheap, ive got to admit. Some of their Markbass amps are at low-ish prices as well.

[quote name='eude' post='866786' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:15 AM']Hey Bob, Thanks for that! Nice work there, very nice indeed OK. [b]I've decided that I'm going to go with the Ibanez Promethean[/b] It sounds a little bit like the MarkBass which is good (from the reviews and youtube clips I've seen), the GenzBenz is a little too sterile/hifi. It's the smallest between it, the Shuttle 3.0 10" Combo and the TecAmp Puma 10. It'll be an easy one hand lift and can come with a nifty little shoulder bag. It doesn't tie me to just a combo as it can be used as part of a modular set up, much like what I already have.. ...and I found it for £479 on Thomann! My mini rig will be up for sale very very soon! Thanks for all your help guys very much appreciated Eude[/quote] I saw that price yesterday, and almost pressed the buy button! Is that the definite price? As in thats the exact price converted from euros to sterling?

[quote name='MythSte' post='866327' date='Jun 13 2010, 08:01 PM']I'm in exactly the same position - although It will be a slight downgrade for me. I dont think the PJ stuff or the micromark will be up to the gigs I plan on playing. I definately need to move a little more Air than that. The Ampeg Micro series might be a good bet. 200 watt head and an ampeg 210 I've seen for around £500. I also think some of the Gallien Krueger combos are in that price range - theyd be loud and super reliable.[/quote] The new GK combos are very good price wise. There is also the new Ibanez Promethean.

I heard that there are two versions of Series 2. The early models are lighter, made with slightly more expensive wood I do believe. Epifani struggled to locate more of the wood and/or the cost went up, so they made the cabinet differently and in addition changed the grill hole size. The more recent Series 2 models definitely have a badge and weigh about 6lbs+ more. They MAY have been a change in speakers as well, not sure.

I sit in the middle. On one hand I have my Orange. All tube, old school, heavy to move. but stunning tone and great to just sit and look at. I appreciate that this tone is something that can be replicated, but not completely. Its the 'feel' of tubes in the heft of the notes. On the other hand, my all digital TC RH450. The Tubetone on this amp can get fairly close, and used correctly adds a good grit or a little hair. Yes, its got heft and TC have really gone to town on the whole tube simulation aspect. It works very well. In the middle I have the Sansamp BDDI and Aguilar Tonehammer. In my opinion, they all work in their own way. I think the idea of a DI or Pod for city gigging is a very good idea. I don't live in London but I would never carry an amp around on the tube, unless it was concealed well and was lightweight. Best just to take a DI that you like and make sure they have a good PA. Im probably way off track, but I can see where you are coming from Nigel. A good bass works wonders in these scenarios.

Another slightly more tame example of why I like Stingrays: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fsply_AyrU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fsply_AyrU[/url] Great tone. Note this is a 2EQ.

[quote name='62P-Bass' post='856395' date='Jun 3 2010, 06:32 PM']Hi, It was me that did the review in this month's Bass Guitar Magazine. I did some comparison recordings which are now on the BGM website here: [url="http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429:p-retro&catid=48:demos&Itemid=102"]http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.ph...&Itemid=102[/url] Cheers, Andrew[/quote] Andrew - great review thanks. Nice playing as well, I really enjoyed it. It definitely makes a difference and I think the whole design is excellent as it still retains that classic P thump without coming across too modern. As mentioned above, Im not modder, so if it came in pedal format Id buy it. Ohhh...the possibilites! Add a DI and youve got a great DI box

I know it takes away the whole point of an onboard, but Id love to see something similar by East thats a small pedal (like Aguilar Tone Hammer). Ive never been one to mod, but an pedal is something id always consider. I doubt it will happen though.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='864847' date='Jun 12 2010, 12:33 AM']sorry for the qoute guys. I'm sure I've seen pictures on the huge ass talkbass thread with the either the RH450 or the classic450 powering 3 cabs. I'm intrigued as to what kind of things you can set. I realise it has the tubetone voicing thingy, however would it be possible to change the whole voicing of the head from "vintage tubetone" to hi fi? I know some people would like a hifi head with the amount of tweakable possibilties (I'm not one though) things like this would be truelly useful, as then you would have an amp for everyone. Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but could you have one of these tweaked tones be stored on the head and be able to switch between one preset to another using the memory bank things? As in I could change from my super glassy high to my low reggae slighty double bass tone setting on the fly?[/quote] Basically, the answer is YES At a normal 'tweaker' level without this extra software im testing, the amp has many possibilities. When mine first arrived I had one preset set up for passive jazz/bridge pickup/nice warm mids/completely clean. Another preset was a more aggressive almost Sansamp voicing eg Precision with a pick/slightly sucked mids/boosted treble/tubetone on 1/3, (this makes the amp sound almost Ampeg like with some hair when you dig in). Then, you can have a completely clean fingerfunk setting, or a setting for a DB. The EQ is extremely flexible as it is - if you check the TC site it explains the semi parametic EQ. You also then have a very useful Spectra Comp Compressor which you can vary for each preset. This is quite useful for slap so you dont have peaking notes. Here is the list of features on the RH450: [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh450features.asp"]http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh450features.asp[/url] The Classic still retains the same tone, but more stripped down for those who do not need the extra features.

Thats a serious statement of a bass! I can only imagine perfection from Status, but I can never see myself with a headless bass....I love headstocks!

There is a German test of this amp online, Ill find the link later. The grit actually sounds pretty good!

[quote name='silddx' post='864113' date='Jun 11 2010, 10:25 AM']They're just normal passive basses with a few sensible improvements like better hardware, Hipshot tuners, rolled edge fingerboards and a carbon reinforcement inside the neck. They are the best standard Fenders I've tried, lovely players, good sounds.[/quote] +1 IMO, and Ive spent ages trying to find decent modern Fenders, these 2008 onwards are the best theyve made in years. Im a picky customer and they really got it right. I wouldnt change anything apart from the strings, but the stock strings are pretty nice! I was pleasantly shocked how much I liked them!

[quote name='guylewis' post='864071' date='Jun 11 2010, 09:50 AM']Here's one that I've just finished. [attachment=51857:bassCAB.JPG] I used Eminence's design (from their website) for a small vented cab for bass guitar using the DeltaLite II. Sounds good and weighs 12.5 kgs. Thanks to MykeT for his help[/quote] That finish is fantastic! It looks very professional.

[quote name='51m0n' post='864036' date='Jun 11 2010, 09:19 AM']Do a search on Talkbass, KJung went into a lot of detail about the SD800. He prefers the LMII (F1 is his favourite), maintaining that the SD800 was a bit too wide (low extended). The SD1200 is closer to an SD800 than an LMII (SD means a digital power section, the LMII has a switch mode power supply but old school power section), just more grunt I'm lead to believe. Of course that wasnt into an NV series sealed cab, which I could see it working brilliantly with...[/quote] Ah yes, I remember reading his reviews. What I was led to believe though was that MB revoiced the SD1200 and its a lot more similar to the smaller Markbass amps now, (eg a little closer to the F1/F500 despite the larger power). I dont thing KJung has had a chance to fully go through a test, but other reviewers have somewhere. All I can imagine is that 1200W into an NV412 must be absolutely HUGE. If I was to have the ability to use BIG cabs, it would be the NV412

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='863539' date='Jun 10 2010, 06:06 PM']Isn't the difference between the Staccato and the RH450 the preamp settings. Presumably if TC divuldged the settings for the Staccato, you could get the exact same amp from the RH450? Preferred the Staccato over the RH450 when I tested them out, but the tweakability factor of these amps to get my "amp voice" is appealing. Won't be purchasing unless this software comes out though as out the box, they don't quite do it for me yet. Great show by TC though... they really have come from nowhere and taken it by storm! PS - still intriuged as to why you can run 3 x 8 ohm cabs from TC yet only 2 from any other manufacturer. What's that about?![/quote] I think its a slightly easier and tame version of what TC used to make the Staccato (and probably the RH450 baked in tone) so yep Im thinking you can pretty much nail the Staccato 51 with an RH450. I think there are a fair few players like yourself who would like this software to be made a product to either be shipped with the amp and/or an accessory you can buy with the cable/etc so you can realy open up a flat tone you want. I would definitely like to see it hit the market! I can see why certain players will prefer the Staccato voicing, and there are some chaps talking on Talkbass about which they prefer. I must admit I quite liked them both, but I went with the run of the mill RH450. I agree on how well they have done. A few years back, no one would have expected this, and all of a sudden, the TC amps are getting as much coverage as some of the really big players in the market. I think they're involvement with the players has worked wonders as it shows they are willing to listen to what we want. They are also really friendly and helpful with emails which is a big help. I admit, the 3 x TC cabinets is a strange one, but as per Mark above, its because TC are confident about their cabinet ratings. It states in the manual quite clearly that the RH450/Staccato can power 3 x TC cabinets with no problems, and it even gives you examples of how to stack them. I have yet to try this but Im definitely going to at some point.

[quote name='Chris2112' post='863589' date='Jun 10 2010, 06:43 PM']I love Stingrays but I'm not so hot on this "tapping for the sake of it" gimmick, or this "punk" thing, saying as it's merely a shouty re-tread of punk that was poor in the first place! But the Ray is a fantastic design.[/quote] Horses for courses I guess. They aren't tapping for the sake of it. You can see the energy almost bursting out of them, and that is what punk is all about. It may well seem like a re-tread but it's now very competently played with the passion that only punk provides. I appreciate a lot of music, even this noisy stuff. Punk is one of the most exciting genres out there. The classics like The Clash brought that driving P Bass forward in the mix, and let's face it 90% of punk has sincere and topical/intelligent lyrical content. I'm sorry but I really don't like a style bring attacked for no apparent reason. It's definitely not dumb or just a re hash.