Musicman20

[quote name='fatback' post='869045' date='Jun 16 2010, 02:12 PM']Classic vs RH450, am I right the only differences are the built in tuner and the 3 presets? Tubetone and compressor seem the same. I'm asking because the price difference at Thomann is now 985 euro vs 639 euro, and that's before you ad 170 euro for the rh450 footswitch. Altogether a gobsmacking £430 sterling extra for the presets with footswitch. My main reason for wanting the 450 in the first place is so i don't have to carry valve and compressor pedals. So if the two models are the same in that department... Or would I regret not having the bells n whistles? Help, girls and boys! Decision time looming. [/quote] You also get a much more versatile EQ with the RH450, and the fact it 'looks' a little more polished with the red LEDs, etc. I it were me, Id pick the RH450 time and time again. The features work really well.

I cannot remember the exact logistics of this, but my old band played Aberdeen at some point on our tour. We drove all the way from the Midlands where we had had played the night before, stopped in Newcastle, went on a night out, spent too much money on going out and fuel, then slept, then went to Aberdeen (fairly huge drive). Whisky and using services showers were a highlight. I loved it, the difference is we virtually never got paid at all as it just doesn't work like that in the scene we were part of. So w actually shelled out a lot to play our own gigs. Classic. Aberdeen was awesome.

[quote name='JMT3781' post='868950' date='Jun 16 2010, 12:56 PM']I have owned the same rig.. just at different points in my bass journey lol. I use my SD1200 with 2x markbass 4x10´s, and its massive, haven´t turned it up past 3 lol. Wish i´d had the chance to use it with the berg NV412, think it woulda torn apart the ampeg 8x10´s my rig normally gets pitted against at gigs. Anyone else have an SD1200? me and raggy were discussing the very very low serial numbers we both have?[/quote] I think my LM3 serial number is fairly low as it was bought virtually the week they came out. I would really like to try one of these amps.....cannot believe the weight/wattage ratio. Plus, personally I love Markbass gear anyway.

[quote name='Pkomor' post='868829' date='Jun 16 2010, 10:52 AM'] Not that yellow, But it sounds AWESOME![/quote] Nice setup dude.

Oh I might be going there tomorrow! Any pics you can share so I know what to look for? Thanks

[quote name='gillento' post='868264' date='Jun 15 2010, 06:42 PM']AFAIK, the db212 is a hell of a cab! I am with Musicman20 on this: since I have played 12" cabs, I don't want to use 10" anymore.[/quote] +1, the DB212 is one nice 'one cab' solution if you go for the 4 ohms. Apparently its a touch bigger and louder than two x DB112.

[quote name='alexharvay' post='867955' date='Jun 15 2010, 12:45 PM']I went from a 410 to a 212. I'm back with a 410 now and much happier. Try 12s in the shop, see how you get on.[/quote] Good post, its down to personal preference on this one. 12s do have a more low mid focus to me, and I like that. Chewy is the description I use! [quote name='chris_b' post='867961' date='Jun 15 2010, 12:52 PM']If I already used a DB210 my first choice would be to add another DB210. Surely that would tick all the boxes? I know there's a “buzz” around Bergantino but Aguilar DB’s are just as good.[/quote] Again, Chris could be hitting it on the head here. Bergantino are fantastic, but then again you already have a fantastic cabinet. Its all down to your ears. If you must go Berg, then Id listen to them first then decide which you prefer.

2x12. If you dont need REALLY HIGH volumes, which no doubt the 2x12 can do anyway, id go with the 2x12. The AE410 has huge amounts of volume capabilities. I had never used 12s until May last year, and now I really like the tone.

I sense that you arent very happy with the wait?

If Thomann had these in stock I would probably order one at that price!

[quote name='oliverw92' post='867299' date='Jun 14 2010, 07:06 PM']I agree with you about the hifi sound of the Genz Benz - the only youtube i found of it, i didn't like the sound. However i found some videos of the Promethean, and like you said, it sounds like a Markbass! We use a Markbass CMD121H in my Jazz band (unfortunately it isn't mine ) and the Promethean was very similar to the 121H - shocked me a little bit![/quote] The Genz is VERY clean and quite Hifi. Great for certain players. Markbass has a little more warmth, and great pure sound.

[quote name='eude' post='866839' date='Jun 14 2010, 11:05 AM']I believe so... Even if it fluctuates a little, it's still a lot less than anywhere in the UK... I've got a gig on the 18th, after that I'll try and shift my mini rig ASAP, then pull the trigger on the Promethean Eude[/quote] Its is MEGA cheap, ive got to admit. Some of their Markbass amps are at low-ish prices as well.

[quote name='eude' post='866786' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:15 AM']Hey Bob, Thanks for that! Nice work there, very nice indeed OK. [b]I've decided that I'm going to go with the Ibanez Promethean[/b] It sounds a little bit like the MarkBass which is good (from the reviews and youtube clips I've seen), the GenzBenz is a little too sterile/hifi. It's the smallest between it, the Shuttle 3.0 10" Combo and the TecAmp Puma 10. It'll be an easy one hand lift and can come with a nifty little shoulder bag. It doesn't tie me to just a combo as it can be used as part of a modular set up, much like what I already have.. ...and I found it for £479 on Thomann! My mini rig will be up for sale very very soon! Thanks for all your help guys very much appreciated Eude[/quote] I saw that price yesterday, and almost pressed the buy button! Is that the definite price? As in thats the exact price converted from euros to sterling?

[quote name='MythSte' post='866327' date='Jun 13 2010, 08:01 PM']I'm in exactly the same position - although It will be a slight downgrade for me. I dont think the PJ stuff or the micromark will be up to the gigs I plan on playing. I definately need to move a little more Air than that. The Ampeg Micro series might be a good bet. 200 watt head and an ampeg 210 I've seen for around £500. I also think some of the Gallien Krueger combos are in that price range - theyd be loud and super reliable.[/quote] The new GK combos are very good price wise. There is also the new Ibanez Promethean.

I heard that there are two versions of Series 2. The early models are lighter, made with slightly more expensive wood I do believe. Epifani struggled to locate more of the wood and/or the cost went up, so they made the cabinet differently and in addition changed the grill hole size. The more recent Series 2 models definitely have a badge and weigh about 6lbs+ more. They MAY have been a change in speakers as well, not sure.

I sit in the middle. On one hand I have my Orange. All tube, old school, heavy to move. but stunning tone and great to just sit and look at. I appreciate that this tone is something that can be replicated, but not completely. Its the 'feel' of tubes in the heft of the notes. On the other hand, my all digital TC RH450. The Tubetone on this amp can get fairly close, and used correctly adds a good grit or a little hair. Yes, its got heft and TC have really gone to town on the whole tube simulation aspect. It works very well. In the middle I have the Sansamp BDDI and Aguilar Tonehammer. In my opinion, they all work in their own way. I think the idea of a DI or Pod for city gigging is a very good idea. I don't live in London but I would never carry an amp around on the tube, unless it was concealed well and was lightweight. Best just to take a DI that you like and make sure they have a good PA. Im probably way off track, but I can see where you are coming from Nigel. A good bass works wonders in these scenarios.

Another slightly more tame example of why I like Stingrays: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fsply_AyrU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fsply_AyrU[/url] Great tone. Note this is a 2EQ.

[quote name='62P-Bass' post='856395' date='Jun 3 2010, 06:32 PM']Hi, It was me that did the review in this month's Bass Guitar Magazine. I did some comparison recordings which are now on the BGM website here: [url="http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429:p-retro&catid=48:demos&Itemid=102"]http://www.bassguitarmagazine.com/index.ph...&Itemid=102[/url] Cheers, Andrew[/quote] Andrew - great review thanks. Nice playing as well, I really enjoyed it. It definitely makes a difference and I think the whole design is excellent as it still retains that classic P thump without coming across too modern. As mentioned above, Im not modder, so if it came in pedal format Id buy it. Ohhh...the possibilites! Add a DI and youve got a great DI box

I know it takes away the whole point of an onboard, but Id love to see something similar by East thats a small pedal (like Aguilar Tone Hammer). Ive never been one to mod, but an pedal is something id always consider. I doubt it will happen though.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='864847' date='Jun 12 2010, 12:33 AM']sorry for the qoute guys. I'm sure I've seen pictures on the huge ass talkbass thread with the either the RH450 or the classic450 powering 3 cabs. I'm intrigued as to what kind of things you can set. I realise it has the tubetone voicing thingy, however would it be possible to change the whole voicing of the head from "vintage tubetone" to hi fi? I know some people would like a hifi head with the amount of tweakable possibilties (I'm not one though) things like this would be truelly useful, as then you would have an amp for everyone. Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but could you have one of these tweaked tones be stored on the head and be able to switch between one preset to another using the memory bank things? As in I could change from my super glassy high to my low reggae slighty double bass tone setting on the fly?[/quote] Basically, the answer is YES At a normal 'tweaker' level without this extra software im testing, the amp has many possibilities. When mine first arrived I had one preset set up for passive jazz/bridge pickup/nice warm mids/completely clean. Another preset was a more aggressive almost Sansamp voicing eg Precision with a pick/slightly sucked mids/boosted treble/tubetone on 1/3, (this makes the amp sound almost Ampeg like with some hair when you dig in). Then, you can have a completely clean fingerfunk setting, or a setting for a DB. The EQ is extremely flexible as it is - if you check the TC site it explains the semi parametic EQ. You also then have a very useful Spectra Comp Compressor which you can vary for each preset. This is quite useful for slap so you dont have peaking notes. Here is the list of features on the RH450: [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh450features.asp"]http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh450features.asp[/url] The Classic still retains the same tone, but more stripped down for those who do not need the extra features.

Thats a serious statement of a bass! I can only imagine perfection from Status, but I can never see myself with a headless bass....I love headstocks!

There is a German test of this amp online, Ill find the link later. The grit actually sounds pretty good!