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[quote name='tb1973' timestamp='1376302320' post='2171784'] I've just ordered the MXR Bass Chorus Delux from ebay, USA free delivery at under £110 ;-) [/quote] Where did you order from? I got my exclusive courier service to bring one over (ie my folks were on holiday and I sent them on a shopping mission). Cost was a shade over £100. Great pedal btw.

[quote name='chrisba' timestamp='1376392930' post='2173161'] Completely agree. Seconds Out was what drove me, as a poor student, to buy a proper hifi. My favourite album of all time. [/quote] Yeah. I've got the original Seconds Out vinyl and it sounds fantastic. [quote] A friend of mine, as a party trick, plays the keyboard solo from Follow You, Follow Me on bass. [/quote] I used to be able to do that with the top line of the Firth of Fifth keyboard solo. My fingers aren't so bendy any more

[quote name='paulconnolly' timestamp='1376248489' post='2171343'] Got a couple of BBT albums. Excellent stuff and yes there is a Genesis feel to them. [/quote] I met one of the BBT guys, Greg, in a bar in Prague after the 2007 Genesis show there. Lovely chap. Apparently BBT will be on the road some time early next year.

Yeah JB is definitely on Over The Top, I've got it on vinyl downstairs. The opening "Theme 1" is killer. Pretty sure it doesn't have Bilbo's song on it though.

Have you heard this version? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-hN35AVCI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-hN35AVCI[/url]

[quote name='mart' timestamp='1375884459' post='2166910'] Now, back on topic: of the 3x3 EP, although Me & Virgil is good, I always loved You Might Recall. I don't know what it is, but something about the jangly sound and wierd-sounding chords just grabbed me. [/quote] Yep, this is one my little-known pleasures mentioned earlier. The drums have a lovely laid-back feel like Follow You Follow Me, great job by Rutherford on the jangles, good bassline too.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1375882063' post='2166861'] The bugger has never done any when I've seen him, but I know he's been working with Hackett. Cheers man. [/quote] I'm sure he's done Carpet Crawl as well, but can't find any setlists to remind me. In the meantime, check out this gem. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRu-YnpCYGM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRu-YnpCYGM[/url]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1375873253' post='2166680'] Ah, I've got a massive soft spot for Fading Lights. A whole song that just the three of them could play live, and the lyrics are so poignant. Lovely. [/quote] You're right - a lyrical high point for that era. And a blast to play as a three-piece. (The tribute band I used to play it with had a singer that didn't play drums, so he'd nip off for a quick half of mild with the guitarist for the instrumental)

[quote name='mart' timestamp='1375872812' post='2166667'] Agreed. That album was curious, as there were a few hints of real Genesis spread through the album. E.g. Tell me Why is a god-awful song, but blessed with some lovely 12-string stuff; the first time a 12-string had appeared on a Genesis album for ages. Fading Lights and Driving the Last Spike had some hints of glory but ultimately fell short, and even No Son of Mine had some atmosphere. But that instrumental bit in Living Forever is a real highlight: it was as if they'd accidentally remembered how to be Genesis, but quickly stopped it, to get back to the excruciating mishmash that was the rest of the album. [/quote] Let's get back to the good stuff. Thanks to this thread, Genesis content on Spotify is getting a good workout from me today. Now playing, Dodo from Three Sides Live. Man it's powerful stuff.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1375868882' post='2166609'] On the subject of WCD, 'Driving the Last Spike' is a song that is good but should have been great. When that guitar-y instrumental kicks in, the song should have gone somewhere. But just as it gets exciting, it drops out again. So frustrating. [/quote] Agreed - same goes for Fading Lights. Play a bit faster Tone! No Son of Mine = Mama Lite; Jesus and I Can't Dance = cringe; tracks 5-11 just not Genesis.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1375868666' post='2166606'] He's just sung on a re-working of the whole of The Lamb! [url="http://www.francisdunnery.com/music-2/"]http://www.francisdunnery.com/music-2/[/url] [/quote] Cool! Thanks for the tip, I'll look out for it. Speaking of re-interpretations, look out for "Rewiring Genesis - A Tribute To The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway", which is the album reworked end to end for synth-less band with strings, woodwind and brass. You can read the story behind the project on Nick De Virgilio's site, he ddrums and sings on it: [url="http://www.ndvmusic.com/discography/ndv/rewiring-genesis"]http://www.ndvmusic.com/discography/ndv/rewiring-genesis[/url]. It's very good and delightfully mental. Check out the clip of Riding The Scree, brilliant.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1375810993' post='2166046'] I've never been into Genesis much, certainly very little familiarity with the music. I'm listening to Cinema Show now, and it feels like listening to It Bites, who I'm a huge fan of, and who I know were big into Genesis, especially Dunnery. I think you may have got me into Genesis and I shall download Seconds Out shortly. Cheers [/quote] Frank's solo set has often included Genesis material in his solo set. I've seen him do the intro to Dancing With The Moonlit Knight, among others (my memory fails me) Also he appears on Steve Hackett's recent "Genesis Revisited 2". He sings on Moonlit Knight again, and as well the last section of Supper's Ready ("As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs (Aching Men's Feet)")

My favourite lesser-known ditties: Do The Neurotic You Might Recall Inside And Out The Conqueror Happy The Man It's Yourself

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1375862676' post='2166490'] It's strange, 'cos he's responsible for some great guitar moments.. the solo on 'Burning Rope', for example. Lovely. But some of his stuff sounds awkward. [/quote] Never been much of a fan of Burning Rope to be honest. A bit clunky lyrically, and the solo doesn't grab me I'm afraid. Much prefer The Lady Lies from that album. [quote] Then again, we're talking about the bloke that came up with the bass part for 'No Reply At All'... and then a few years later stopped bothering creating parts with any redeeming features. [/quote] Another bit of surprising bass-playing from latter Genesis is the instrumental at the end of Living Forever on We Can't Dance. A minute or two's brief excitement in another otherwise endless landscape of mediocrity on that album.

[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1375820680' post='2166219'] Great bassist...average guitarist imho. [/quote] Mike was a fantastic rhythm and acoustic/12-string guitarist on Genesis material up to Steve Hackett's departure - then taking on lead guitar duties as well pushed everything else on to the back burner. Shame.

Check out the Two Tribes wikipedia page, you'll see that the bassline existed before Trev and ZTT got involved. It's not impossible that NWR came along and made a better job of it though.

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1375807107' post='2165976'] I might go to see one of the Hackett 'Regenesis' shows in October, I've seen some very positive reviews. [/quote] I saw Steve Hackett and band at the Hammersmith Odeon earlier this year. Tribute band ReGenesis weren't taking part though The "Mike Rutherford" of the band is Lee Pomeroy - he had a custom lefty bass/12-string built for him by 3R Guitars, see [url="http://www.3rguitars.co.uk/twin%20neck.htm"]http://www.3rguitars.co.uk/twin%20neck.htm[/url]. Also it's impossible to work out what he's doing as he's left-handed *and* plays with the strings upside-down.

Don't go running when listening to Seconds Out. Too many odd time sigs, you'll keep falling over They're all good from Trespass to Abacab and the first half of Genesis. From 1977's And Then There Were Three, quality starts dropping off due to Phil Collins' first divorce and the slush starting to creep in, despite everyone telling him to go do a solo album and get it out of his system. After "Home By The Sea" finishes on Genesis, pretend nothing else happened

Two Trevs.

Not sure how much help it is, but this is fantastic [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWY8oAnnww"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWY8oAnnww[/url]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1375774331' post='2165300'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]cack-handed shed builders.[/font][/color] [/quote] I'll add that to my list of potential future band names. Thanks!

I'm going to de-couple the constraint corridors and upshunt our clear sky leverage on this one.

[quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1375050907' post='2156253'] This was a great gig- I remember when it was first aired and yes, funny that bassist and guitarist switch for this number. [/quote] Explanations why Gail Ann Dorsey and guitarist Mark Plati switch instruments here [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f19/bowies-ashes-ashes-8719/"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f19/bowies-ashes-ashes-8719/[/url] and here [url="http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/chats/dbplati0800.htm"]http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/chats/dbplati0800.htm[/url] Conclusion appears to be "we fancied a change"

Here's the clip if anyone's interested [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhtHrBLgAk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhtHrBLgAk[/url]

[quote name='whynot' timestamp='1374745000' post='2152604'] Been following these guys for the best part of 2 years now. Did anyone go to the clinic at Morley College last week? An intimate 2 hours of playing and chat. Well worth the £10. [/quote] Would have gone with a bit more notice, as Morley College is just round the corner from here. Just signed up for tickets to the VU gig in November (thanks for the tip Mike!)