Pino Palladino Signature Stingray

[Terry M.]

36 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

It was in fact signed by Francis Rocco Prestia, and what you can't read is Kyda, meaning Keep Your Dreams Alive.

 

Yes, Pino's son is named Rocco after Francis Rocco Prestia, who was the idol of Pino Palladino, ... small world when you think he also was Jaco Pastorius' idol too.

Thanks. I love these nuggets of information 😊

[Beedster]

1 hour ago, Terry M. said:

Thanks. I love these nuggets of information 😊

Likewise 👍

[kevin_lindsay]

Here's what the side edge of the headstock says on Pino's original red P -bass (the one that was used to base his Fender Custom Shop instrument on - the neck of which was based on his old sunburst P-Bass)

 

 

[snorkie635]

2 hours ago, Terry M. said:

Thanks. I love these nuggets of information 😊

When I read this, I thought you were commenting on the denizens of the DoI thread. There's more than a few nuggets there - I know, being one of them.

[Terry M.]

12 minutes ago, snorkie635 said:

When I read this, I thought you were commenting on the denizens of the DoI thread. There's more than a few nuggets there - I know, being one of them.

You've completely lost me mate with this 🤷‍♂️

[snorkie635]

21 minutes ago, Terry M. said:

You've completely lost me mate with this 🤷‍♂️

DoI = Den of Iniquity thread on Basschat. Home thread of nonsense, waffle and good humour. Most folk who contribute are nuts (I am proud to be one of the regulars). Drop in Terry. It'll take a day or so to work out what's going on, but a better bunch, you'll struggle to find.

Edited Saturday at 18:20 by snorkie635

[SpondonBassed]

1 hour ago, snorkie635 said:

It'll take a day or so to work out what's going on, but a better bunch, you'll struggle to find.

 

...bring your own nuggets.

[ezbass]

Paul Young was just on BBC2 on the Live Aid gig, Pino laying it down on the ‘Ray, nicely high in the mix - a perfectly timed advert.

[Stub Mandrel]

1 hour ago, ezbass said:

Paul Young was just on BBC2 on the Live Aid gig, Pino laying it down on the ‘Ray, nicely high in the mix - a perfectly timed advert.

 

It wont let me rewind to it  I thnk Spandau Ballet had a ray too.

 

Sadé was amazing.

[Steve Browning]

9 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

It wont let me rewind to it  I thnk Spandau Ballet had a ray too.

 

Sadé was amazing.

I remember her voice being described as having warm chocolate poured over you. Wonderful description. 

[mikebass456]

10 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

It wont let me rewind to it  I thnk Spandau Ballet had a ray too.

 

Sadé was amazing.

Martin Kemp was playing a Wal the Spandau set.....😉👍

[Stub Mandrel]

Just recognised Marcus Miller by his bass (Brian Ferry).

[Stub Mandrel]

Ah Pino on now. Tone very different from the usual '80s scoop. Very throaty.

[Linus27]

2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Just recognised Marcus Miller by his bass (Brian Ferry).

 

Just goes to show how much I know, I said to the wife, that's a Fender Jazz Marcus Miller bass, really nice bass but didn't really realise they were out in 1985. She said, it looked really new so maybe they'd just come out. Didn't realise it was actually Marcus Miller playing 😆

Edited Saturday at 23:27 by Linus27

[dub_junkie]

I had a 133 series StingRay about 15 years ago. Bought it new for £999 from Nevada music iirc. The choices were Black, Candy Apple Red and Pearl Blue. I got black with rosewood.

They were advertised at the time as these three colours only but with the choice of a maple or rosewood fretboard. As said before they were all 2EQ and came with a gig bag. 

The '133 series' reference never came into the conversation until discussion on the EBMM forum used this nomenclature on account of it being part of the build number

[Terry M.]

7 minutes ago, dub_junkie said:

The choices were Black, Candy Apple Red and Pearl Blue.

Exactly what I remember seeing at the time. @drTStingray is remembering seeing white as part of the Union Jack colours however.

[Hellzero]

10 hours ago, Linus27 said:

 

Just goes to show how much I know, I said to the wife, that's a Fender Jazz Marcus Miller bass, really nice bass but didn't really realise they were out in 1985. She said, it looked really new so maybe they'd just come out. Didn't realise it was actually Marcus Miller playing 😆

In fact, the Marcus Miller and the Geddy Lee were introduced in ... 1998, not before, but it's a common mistake to date them to 1985 because of the A serial number and the Made In Japan that was used only for these two models, as the other models of the period were bearing the Crafted In Japan inscription.

 

Nice confusion leading to some serious mistakes.

[drTStingray]

13 hours ago, Terry M. said:

Exactly what I remember seeing at the time. @drTStingray is remembering seeing white as part of the Union Jack colours however.

Yeah I suspect they extended the run and issued them to coincide with an anniversary - and added white as an option - I recall them placing ads in the bass magazines based around a large Union flag. @dub_junkie no doubt got his from the initial run - I also recall they advertised it as a real Stingray for less than £1000 (even though it was very marginally less)!! 
 

13 hours ago, Hellzero said:

In fact, the Marcus Miller and the Geddy Lee were introduced in ... 1998, not before, but it's a common mistake to date them to 1985 because of the A serial number and the Made In Japan that was used only for these two models, as the other models of the period were bearing the Crafted In Japan inscription.

 

Nice confusion leading to some serious mistakes.

Marcus was playing his original modified Jazz bass, with Bryan Ferry - I remember at the time thinking how dreadful the bass sound was on that - it looked like he was struggling with the stage sound as well - we were all used to hearing Alan Spenner play a Wal on Roxymusic stuff.
 

By contrast, Pino’s sound on the Paul Young set was astonishingly good!! But then it always seemed to be, in those far off days when guitarists didn’t have to be the loudest instrument!! Pino played through a Trace Elliot stack. 

Edited 15 hours ago by drTStingray

[ezbass]

8 hours ago, drTStingray said:

 

By contrast, Pino’s sound on the Paul Young set was astonishingly good!! But then it always seemed to be, in those far off days when guitarists didn’t have to be the loudest instrument!! Pino played through a Trace Elliot stack. 

It also helps when said guitarist is Johnny Turnbull (Blockheads), who always just fits right in. Didn’t realise it was him on the Live Aid gig and not Steve Bolton, until watching it on Saturday. It also helps when Ian Kewley is the MD too.

[mikebass456]

Didn't realise how much of the concert I didn't originally see, until I started watching it over the weekend! 😲😆

[Misdee]

I notice that EBMM's ernest committment to authenticity on these PIno basses doesn't extend to equipping them with Rotosound RS66 strings gauged ,40/60/75/95. That's the set PIno used on all those classic recordings and, last I heard, still his choice for roundwound strings. PIno never did the Stingray with flats thing until now, as far as I know.

 

That said, I also know that his original Stingray has had at least three different fingerboards on it due to wear from roundwounds strings, so maybe flats is a sensible choice in respect of that.

 

[MrFingers]

Here’s to hoping they go the Joe Dart route and make it in a Ray24 version (fretless) under the Sterling brand.

Edited 4 hours ago by MrFingers

[BassApprentice]

24 minutes ago, MrFingers said:

Here’s to hoping they go the Joe Dart route and make it in a Ray24 version (fretless) under the Sterling brand.

I think that's unlikely as Pino isn't quite as driven as Jack Stratton/Joe Dart to shift the units and gain further exposure.

 

I'm sure Musicman would welcome the sales - but I from what I've read, Stratton drove the idea more than EBMM. Not that I wouldn't love a £500 Pino style bass.

[Misdee]

40 minutes ago, BassApprentice said:

I think that's unlikely as Pino isn't quite as driven as Jack Stratton/Joe Dart to shift the units and gain further exposure.

 

I'm sure Musicman would welcome the sales - but I from what I've read, Stratton drove the idea more than EBMM. Not that I wouldn't love a £500 Pino style bass.

Except that at £500 it wouldn't and couldn't really bear much real relation to Pino's bass. At best it would be a cheap bass with a reminiscent paint job.

 

The Joe Dart model is a very different proposition in so much as even the USA-made version was conceived as a bit of a joke at consumers expense. It was "special" because you were getting far less for your money. The expensive version was a cheap bass masquerading as something extraordinary. The Sterling version is just further refining that aesthetic.

Edited 3 hours ago by Misdee

[Linus27]

39 minutes ago, BassApprentice said:

I think that's unlikely as Pino isn't quite as driven as Jack Stratton/Joe Dart to shift the units and gain further exposure.

 

I'm sure Musicman would welcome the sales - but I from what I've read, Stratton drove the idea more than EBMM. Not that I wouldn't love a £500 Pino style bass.

 

I wonder if the route that EBMM take if this bass seems popular from a sales point of view is they just make a basic fretless Ray24 using a range of limited block colours, basic hardware and a rosewood neck. Basically a £500 fretless Ray24.