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There's a car ad on the TV which features a track by Erasure - got me thinking how little acknowledgement Vince Clarke gets.

Depeche Mode, Yazoo, The Assembly and Erasure - all his projects.

 

Can't be many musicians who have been successful with 4 or more bands but don'treallyget a mention....

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Karl Wallinger, who sadly died recently, massively under acknowledged artist. I absolutely love Private Revolution, even it reminds me of an ex, who introduced me to World Party.

 

Andy Partridge, XTC. Another genius who should get way more recognition.

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22 hours ago, Rayman said:

Andy Partridge, XTC. Another genius who should get way more recognition.

 

I couldn't agree more. Alas that much of XTC's output is just too English/Idiosyncatic/Leftfield* (delete as appropriate) for some people's tastes. 

All too unfortunately evidenced by the fact that their Joke/Nostalgia "Dukes of the Stratosphear" venture commercially outperformed their regular album/s at the time. 

 

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My unsung heroes are not band members but the session guys who worked in the studios pumping out the songs that influenced the rest of the bass playing world: Tommy Cogbill, David Hood, Mike Leech, Bob Babbitt, Jerry Jemmott, Jesse Boyce, Junior Lowe, Olsie Robinson and Vernie Robins etc etc.

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On a related note, there was a good piece in the Guardian the other day about "unofficial" band members (people who play with the band, sometimes for decades, but aren't "in" the band).

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/20/touring-musicians-who-play-with-bands-but-arent-official-members-manic-street-preachers-simple-minds

I have to be honest that it sounds like a pretty good setup on the whole - getting paid to play but none (or very little, anyway) of the politics, drama, publicity etc.

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On 23/03/2024 at 15:25, Rayman said:

Andy Partridge, XTC. Another genius who should get way more recognition.

 

Genius? No doubt extremely talented, but if we compare to an acknowledged musical genius such as Beethoven can we really call Partridge a genius?

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I think the list of unacknowledged/unappreciated but hugely talented musicians goes down the road and around the block several times especially $h!t hot pioneering guitarists outside the rock genre e.g. Tommy Emmanuel, Lenny Breau, Danny Gatton, Leo Kottke, Adrian Legg, Peter Huttlinger, Roy Buchanan, Isaac Guillory, Martin Taylor, John Jourgensen, Pierre Bensusan, Davy Graham, Andy McKee, Tony McManus, Bryan Sutton, Scotty Anderson...

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1 hour ago, MacDaddy said:

 

Genius? No doubt extremely talented, but if we compare to an acknowledged musical genius such as Beethoven can we really call Partridge a genius?

Absolutely. If any contemporary musician can be considered a genius, then AP can totally be included in that list.

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2 hours ago, Barking Spiders said:

I think the list of unacknowledged/unappreciated but hugely talented musicians goes down the road and around the block several times especially $h!t hot pioneering guitarists outside the rock genre e.g. Tommy Emmanuel, Lenny Breau, Danny Gatton, Leo Kottke, Adrian Legg, Peter Huttlinger, Roy Buchanan, Isaac Guillory, Martin Taylor, John Jourgensen, Pierre Bensusan, Davy Graham, Andy McKee, Tony McManus, Bryan Sutton, Scotty Anderson...

Some great names here, but all highly acknowledged albeit in their specialist fields. Unlike another example here of Andy Partridge who had some huge hits in the mainstream, but whose name, and musical contributions are somewhat overlooked. 

But then that's the joy of discussions such as this one.

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2 hours ago, Barking Spiders said:

I think the list of unacknowledged/unappreciated but hugely talented musicians goes down the road and around the block several times especially $h!t hot pioneering guitarists outside the rock genre e.g. Tommy Emmanuel, Lenny Breau, Danny Gatton, Leo Kottke, Adrian Legg, Peter Huttlinger, Roy Buchanan, Isaac Guillory, Martin Taylor, John Jourgensen, Pierre Bensusan, Davy Graham, Andy McKee, Tony McManus, Bryan Sutton, Scotty Anderson...

 

. . . . and one of the best, most overlooked guitarists of all time, Reggie Young.

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5 hours ago, MacDaddy said:

 

Genius? No doubt extremely talented, but if we compare to an acknowledged musical genius such as Beethoven can we really call Partridge a genius?

Of course it’s each to his own, but personally yes, I’ll call Andy partridge a genius any day. X 

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