Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Is it just me or does anyone else think the body on these is really weird and stumpy-looking? I imagine they would look a lot less weird if had been designed without a pickguard/control plate https://www.andertons.co.uk/brands/sire/sire-marcus-miller-series-bass-guitars/sire-v-series-basses/sire-v5-basses/sire-marcus-miller-v5-24-fret-4-string-fretless-bass-guitar-vintage-white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 It looks just like any other bass, to me. 2D photos do not do justice to 3D objects, often enough; a better idea might be from a video of someone actually playing one in a band. I've seen very much more 'shocking' basses; this just looks like a bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) I think it looks great! Certainly better than a traditional Fender Jazz Bass. Edited August 13, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 I've just recalled what they remind me of — Those folded faces that were a bit of a meme a while ago 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: I've just recalled what they remind me of — Those folded faces that were a bit of a meme a while ago Isn't that only because you see a "not Fender Jazz" Bass, rather than an unique instrument/model in it's own regard? Edited August 13, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 They’ve tried to redesign to allow better upper fret access. Personally I never go above the 12th fret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baloney Balderdash Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rayman said: They’ve tried to redesign to allow better upper fret access. Personally I never go above the 12th fret. I for one appreciate that. I don't know what it is with Fender and 19 frets necks with the last 3 frets sitting on the body, being inaccessible. Edited August 13, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Isn't that only because you see a "not Fender Jazz" Bass, rather than an unique instrument/model in it's own regard? Yes of course — if it wasn't a wonky looking fender copy it wouldn't have the wonky looking pickguard. Fender did something similar in around 1989 with the 'boner' jazz as it was known, but as it only had 22 fret it wasn't quite as extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 They made an active 5 string for Nathan King a few years back to thank him for doing the Andertons video`s. Here he is playing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, jezzaboy said: They made an active 5 string for Nathan King a few years back to thank him for doing the Andertons video`s. Here he is playing it. Nice bass, but what happened to Norman Watt-Roy? Can you even have The Blockheads without him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johncee Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) On 13/08/2023 at 21:45, jezzaboy said: They made an active 5 string for Nathan King a few years back to thank him for doing the Andertons video`s. Here he is playing it. Saw the Blockheads last night at Dingwall's. They were great. Isn't that just a standard Sire V7? Edited December 17, 2023 by Johncee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Johncee said: Saw the Blockheads last night at Dingwall's. They were great. Isn't that just a standard Sire V7? Naw, I`m pretty sure thats the new shape 24 fret job that no bugger seems to be buying as Andertons have dropped the prices about £200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Right number of frets, wrong number of strings! 24 and 6 is the correct number of frets and strings. 👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johncee Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jezzaboy said: Naw, I`m pretty sure thats the new shape 24 fret job that no bugger seems to be buying as Andertons have dropped the prices about £200. Yes, I see you're right now. Had it down as a standard V7 when I saw them last night, but I was a fair way back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 13/08/2023 at 22:45, Baloney Balderdash said: I for one appreciate that. I don't know what it is with Fender and 19 frets necks with the last 3 frets sitting on the body, being inaccessible. That’s why all bolt on necks suck! Had a custom jazz made just so I could have a set neck and smooth unfettered access to the dusty end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) On 13/08/2023 at 22:45, jezzaboy said: They made an active 5 string for Nathan King a few years back to thank him for doing the Andertons video`s. Here he is playing it. Also known as the crazy knob fiddler, making sure no one gets absolutely no wiser at what the controls of a pedal does or how it actually sounds. Edited December 18, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) On 13/08/2023 at 13:23, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: Is it just me or does anyone else think the body on these is really weird and stumpy-looking? Yes - the balance between the horns is lost with that larger cutaway. It looks lopsided to me....like its been drawn with your off hand. (I also think the headstock looks like it's been drawn like a 7-year old - I really don't like what Sire decided to do up there) Edited December 18, 2023 by ahpook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyJ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, ahpook said: Yes - the balance between the horns is lost with that larger cutaway. It looks lopsided to me....like its been drawn with your off hand. I feel the same, it's the long lower horn that makes it look weird. I don't mind the deeper cutaway, but the long horn makes it look wonky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Never mind the body, I can't STAND those droopy Sire headstocks. What were they thinking?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 hours ago, songofthewind said: Never mind the body, I can't STAND those droopy Sire headstocks. What were they thinking?? Yup. It's kinda a silly and slightly shallow thing to get hung up on, but the headstock is a dealbreaker for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It's no worse than the Sadowsky headstock, and a bazillion times better than the Alleva-Coppolo one. IMO anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johncee Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Rich said: It's no worse than the Sadowsky headstock, and a bazillion times better than the Alleva-Coppolo one. IMO anyway. Well, personal taste comes into it of course, but to my eyes the curves of both the Sadowsky and A-C headstocks flow naturally into one another, and work well together. The Sire headstock is just an awkward-looking mess that makes no geometric sense. One could well say "so what" and that's a perfectly valid position to take. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Rich said: It's no worse than the Sadowsky headstock, and a bazillion times better than the Alleva-Coppolo one. IMO anyway. I like the Sadowsky one. But you're right about the A-C one. It's "blobby", like a low-resolution version of a Fender headstock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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