Bigwan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 There was a time when Darkglass innovated and shook the market with game changing products. Now we have releases like the B1K and this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Unless these are significantly cheaper than the 500W versions - what is the point? They all have volume controls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Darkglass becomes the new FMIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I am sure that the usual bunch of YouTube influencers are preparing their absolutely glowing '100% honest reviews' as we speak. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 hours ago, fretmeister said: Unless these are significantly cheaper than the 500W versions - what is the point? They all have volume controls. It doesn't look like it competes with the Trace Elliot and the like for size, and presume its still IEC powered, so I don't see any point unless its silly cheap, which I can't imagine it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Up for preorder... £469... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Bigwan said: Up for preorder... £469... Rather have the 500w version with it’s better features then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I approve of the 200 500 900 watt choices. My little GK MB200 was a favourite home practice amp, it could also handle small and mid sized rooms. I was heartbroken when it stopped working and went looking for a replacement, couldn’t find anything at the time that I liked better. I did get it repaired. But if these had been around I might well have picked one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 It feels like the Infinity or Photon pedals would be a better product simply because of the feature set if someone really wanted to drop 500 quid on the latest DG tech but I get they’re two different products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 So it's basically an effects pedal with a power amp section ? Ok, could work, but i'd rather not integrate the 2 separate systems myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 You could buy the Exponent and have both pedals in the software Suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 A lot of apples/oranges comparisons going on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 They forget its not lockdown and the furlough cash cow as ceased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I think Darkglass have well and truly jumped the shark. Whilst most of their products are great, the notable decline in concepts has been evident since Doug stepped away. The ADAM and Photon having functionality that "we'll add later." The Evolution being somewhat half baked as well. Now we get to the pointlessness of a 200W amp in this day and age. The TE Elf to me is a joke as you'd red line it all the way unless you were using an 8x10 which kind of defeats the purpose of having an amp the size of a matchbox. I'm sure the Darkglass faithfull will lap it up, but they're not going to top the AO ultra. The Photon and ADAM should have been the flagship products, but I feel they may have been rushed which is a massive pity as they could have been game changers rather than leaving users wondering when firmware updates will arrive. Whilst I think they'll do well for many years to come, I imagine that these recent misfires are the start of the company losing it's way and drifting from the values it was founded on. Which to me is a tragedy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Not the most glowing of reviews: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 this shows all the worries i had tbh......... having a look at the features and the live stage volume its a bit strange as to who this is actually aimed at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I keep gig rigs completely separate from practice , or rehearsal amps. That looks like a nice home practice amp to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, msb said: I keep gig rigs completely separate from practice , or rehearsal amps. That looks like a nice home practice amp to me. But if you want a home practice amp would you really want to buy a cab aswell? I’d just use the pedals into a daw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Yes, I’ve got a little Phil Jones C2 under one practice head and an Ampeg 210AV under another. I have a pair of Bergantino cabs by the patio door for gigs , although for many I only need a single cab. And an ancient GK MB150 combo to drag out for rehearsals. I drag stuff out the door for rehearsals or gigs every week and keep the practice rigs completely separate and self contained. That way I don’t forget cables or tuners , or whatever when I head out. And I do have a cheap little headphone amp I can plug a tablet into as well. Edited November 18, 2022 by msb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 If 200w isn't enough and you aren't wearing earplugs you will be suffering hearing loss before you're done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: If 200w isn't enough and you aren't wearing earplugs you will be suffering hearing loss before you're done. it might be enough in a very small pub gig or jazz venue, but just to get clear low end to fill a room you might be pushing it ( and i know valve amps are typically 100-200w but thats a different thing) and at 469 thats a bit to pricey for a practice amp imo where you still need a cab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Clearly, 200W is enough, BUT this is 100W into 8R. In my experience, that is just about enough to accompany a couple of acoustic guitars. I have used my 100W 8R combo (170W into 4R) with a 12" extension cab in a rehearsal, but it was still not up to that task in a relatively modest 5 piece (Drums, Bass two electric guitars). The drummer is not quiet but does know dynamics, the guitarist use Fender and Roland Combos. Of course with a good PA support it can be done but it islimiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 After my father-in-law passed away we began caring for my mother-in-law and I decided that I wasn’t lugging amps back and forth , so I was going to need a practice amp there. At the time my usual practice amp at home was an old and battered GK MB150 , a great little combo. My first reaction was to get something cheap , so I picked up a used Rumble 15. And it sounded like garbage , so I decided to rethink this. I was spending far more time practicing than gigging so I decided to go for something that would sound nice. Found a little GK MB200 head for a great price on kijiji and was off to the races. Initially paired it with a cheap Traynor cab , that was replaced with an Ampeg 210 AV , and that was replaced with a Phil Jones C2. I sold the Traynor cab and moved the Ampeg cab home for practice and semi retired the MB150. Now the MB200 and the C2 sound lovely! But I managed to score an e500 on kijiji and that’s replaced the MB200 for now. At home I’ve been running the 210AV through a SWR Headlite , the little GK might go back there . I normally do a couple of gigs per week but easily manage to put in several hours a day on a practice amp. It was well worth the money to get something nice that sounds good. I believe that in order to develop a good touch you need to practice amplified. And I like listening to good tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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