jmstone Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 As a side project I am playing bass in a covers band - they want to do walk on the wild side, which I thought is cool - has a good bassline etc. But now I listen to it, I hear it has 2 bass parts sliding in opposite directions. Any suggestions how to handle this (apart from getting another bassist!)? James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Pick the one that sounds best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinger Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Will Lee had found a way to do this - I can´t remember exactly but he tapped the line with both hands, one on the E string and one on the G, starting with the double-stop (root/VII) and sliding down on the E and up on the G string to the respective target notes. It does take some practice but it´s not too difficult really and sounds very nice. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 You are right, there are two bass parts on the record. I would play the main bass line and leave out the secondary, higher part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmstone Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thanks for all the replies. Has anyone tried getting a guitarist to play the higher part? James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 [quote name='Soulfinger' post='421111' date='Feb 27 2009, 04:56 PM']Will Lee had found a way to do this - I can´t remember exactly but he tapped the line with both hands, one on the E string and one on the G, starting with the double-stop (root/VII) and sliding down on the E and up on the G string to the respective target notes. It does take some practice but it´s not too difficult really and sounds very nice. Hope this helps![/quote] This is how I do it. Yes it does take some practice, but it must be reasonably easy if I can do it It's worth working at, as it is so much more effective than just doing one of the lines and more impressive than getting a (spit) [i]guitarist[/i] to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I kept wanting this guy to play it but he never got round to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6stringbassist Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I used to play it a major 10 interval sliding up and down, that sounded pretty cool to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 [quote name='6stringbassist' post='421172' date='Feb 27 2009, 05:49 PM']I used to play it a major 10 interval sliding up and down, that sounded pretty cool to everyone.[/quote] This is the most used way, and very effective. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 [quote name='beerdragon' post='421156' date='Feb 27 2009, 05:33 PM']I kept wanting this guy to play it but he never got round to it.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 [quote name='6stringbassist' post='421172' date='Feb 27 2009, 05:49 PM']I used to play it a major 10 interval sliding up and down, that sounded pretty cool to everyone.[/quote] Once you try it you'll find that it simply doesn't sound right without both parts, so either learn the way above or invest in a real good tracking pitch shift with 15 semitone range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Herbie flowers played the lower part on double bass and the higher notes on fender jazz,i dont think it would be possible to get the right sound any other way.Could you not get the guitarist to loop the c chord strum which goes on through the song and then help you out with the higher bass notes.Just a suggestion. Edited February 27, 2009 by YouMa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantdosleepy Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The (possibly apocryphal) story behind the bassline is that someone suggested they have the two parts, and the session bassist really pushed for it, because then he'd be paid double for the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 [quote name='Rich' post='421139' date='Feb 27 2009, 05:18 PM']This is how I do it. Yes it does take some practice, but it must be reasonably easy if I can do it It's worth working at, as it is so much more effective than just doing one of the lines and more impressive than getting a (spit) [i]guitarist[/i] to do it.[/quote] I can confirm that Rich's double handed technique suonds great and [i]looks[/i] very impressive. Even his singer noticed and makes a feature of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I agree with Rich and Sixstring bassist, i play it as tenth chords on the E and G strings using my thumb and 1st finger sounds great and i use that trick a lot, i first heard Chuck Rainey do it, oh and Verdine white and Tony levin do it too, really nice if used tastefully, check out Abraham laboriel sliding into a 10th chord on Randy crawfords "trade winds" just gorgeous- lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I've played it tapping the two parts , but I've got a Lou Reed live vid and Fernando Saunders plays it the sliding tenth way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) However when I play it in our band I do it the [s]lazy[/s] minimalistic but effective way ... G on the D string, B on the G string and slide up and down with a popped 12fret harmonic G on the 4th beat of the second bar whilst I get back down to the low end. Seems to work and TBH the punters don't mind I'm not playing the low G+10th or the "two basses at once" thing ... Edited February 28, 2009 by OldGit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Just play it in 10ths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 [quote name='Cantdosleepy' post='421273' date='Feb 27 2009, 07:40 PM']The (possibly apocryphal) story behind the bassline is that someone suggested they have the two parts, and the session bassist really pushed for it, because then he'd be paid double for the session.[/quote] It's all true, bassist is Herbie Flowers, and a nicer fella I've never met. He's got about a gazillion tales from sessions and this is just one of them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 +1 Met him when I was a sallow youth and had a go on his famous Jazz - the one on Walk ... I believe he only got a session fee and not a percentage of the earnings from the recording .. Poor bu553r. Still "Granddad" probably keeps him in Horlicks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkmaster Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 [quote name='OldGit' post='425646' date='Mar 4 2009, 11:45 PM']+1 Met him when I was a sallow youth[/quote] Yep - me too! Just when I was starting playing - Blue Mink at the Batley Variety Club! [quote name='OldGit' post='425646' date='Mar 4 2009, 11:45 PM']Poor bu553r. Still "Granddad" probably keeps him in Horlicks ...[/quote] Wasn't Herbie involved with the Tellytubbies too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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