Pino Pallidino Fender Precision

[WHUFC BASS]

Honestly, this is not a troll post before anybody suggests it is, but can anyone explain to me why it costs nearly 4 grand for a PP Fender Precision:

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/fender-custom-shop-pino-palladino-precision-bass/2227?gclid=CjwKCAiA9qHhBRB2EiwA7poaeD37arw8BcQARGpDotfLyy4Abx34vS_hrWV91dinIXkILuh84W3bhBoC4MkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The "Unique Features" they state come with it are: Vintage Styling, Shows natural wear and tear of years of heavy use, nicks, scratches, worn finish rusty hardware and aged plastic parts. Cable, strap and case.

FOUR GRAND ? REALLY?

[Chiliwailer]

Yes, my mind boggles at this one too tbh. 

Edit - and other CS prices these days. I do like CS, and have previously owned some lovely ones, but I don’t like them enough to spend that kind of money. 

Edited December 30, 2018 by Chiliwailer

[Lozz196]

It`s a strange one. I`ve played one of these and it was easily the best bass - not just P-bass - that I`ve ever played. But was it really 4 times as good as my US Precision, well probably not. I think when they were £2500 new they were overpriced, 4 grand is just daft. To my basic view of thinking the MIMs are priced properly at about £600, the US should be at a grand or £1100, and then Custom Shop ones at about the £1800 to 2 grand mark. But then that`s probably why I don`t run a hugely successful business making and selling instruments.

[WHUFC BASS]

It baffles me that this bass is modelled on a vintage Precision that Pino owned and sells for more than a vintage Precision sells for. Even if you took a Fender Custom shop bass and stuck decent replacement pickups in, you'd have a lot of change out of 4 grand. I'm not too keen on the artificial relic'ing that they've done on this and especially if it bumps the price up to 4 grand either. I think Fender's logic must be that SOMEONE will buy it so we'll charge that much.

[rollie 55]

1 hour ago, WHUFC BASS said:

Honestly, this is not a troll post before anybody suggests it is, but can anyone explain to me why it costs nearly 4 grand for a PP Fender Precision:

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/fender-custom-shop-pino-palladino-precision-bass/2227?gclid=CjwKCAiA9qHhBRB2EiwA7poaeD37arw8BcQARGpDotfLyy4Abx34vS_hrWV91dinIXkILuh84W3bhBoC4MkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The "Unique Features" they state come with it are: Vintage Styling, Shows natural wear and tear of years of heavy use, nicks, scratches, worn finish rusty hardware and aged plastic parts. Cable, strap and case.

FOUR GRAND ? REALLY?

i agree 4 grand. put a name on it and wow a fool and his/her money are easy parted 

[stingrayPete1977]

I don't even like it, looks like a £500 bass like most P basses do to me. 

[rollie 55]

5 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

I don't even like it, looks like a £500 bass like most P basses do to me. 

yes i agree

[fleabag]

I think they call this " Capitalism " ...  or " cashing in "  based on sucking in those that have heroes,  and waste their hard earned on these basses in the bilinkered hope ...etc etc

 

 

[rollie 55]

1 minute ago, fleabag said:

I think they call this " Capitalism " ...  or " cashing in "  based on sucking in those that have heroes,  and waste their hard earned on these basses in the bilinkered hope ...etc etc

 

 

never a true word. well said

[drTStingray]

That's what you pay for hand selected parts, hand assembled etc in the US by master craftsmen. 

The team built CS stuff is cheaper and more or less manufactured in a similar way to EBMM stuff - EBMM's necks are hand finished which is where some of the magic occurs along with the woods and finishes. As I understand, many of the CS features are only available as master built. 

We will be getting 'my entry level Squier by Fender P bass is every bit as good as a US or US CS one' threads next - well no it obviously isn't but if the Squier suits your pocket and aspirations then it will no doubt do an adequate job. 

I do worry a little about the resilience of some of these reissue basses made by parts of Fender - didn't someone have a truss rod break on one recently here - not sure if they replaced the bass or not but I would have been pretty furious if they hadn't. 

Edited December 30, 2018 by drTStingray

[Cato]

The whole original ethos behind all Leo Fenders guitar and basses was good quality but relatively affordable mass produced factory built instruments.

No matter how much Fender claim that the Custom Shop signature range are 'authentic reproductions ' they're actually a long way from what Leo originally had in mind for the brand.

Edited December 30, 2018 by Cato

[stingrayPete1977]

There's only so much love and care you can put into something so simple, two blocks of wood in the cnc machine and hand sand the edges a bit, a few screws and a lick of paint. 

[Chiliwailer]

43 minutes ago, drTStingray said:

That's what you pay for hand selected parts, hand assembled etc in the US by master craftsmen. 

I do worry a little about the resilience of some of these reissue basses made by parts of Fender - didn't someone have a truss rod break on one recently here - not sure if they replaced the bass or not but I would have been pretty furious if they hadn't. 

Unfortunately not Don, the Pino basses are team built, and many of the other team builds are over the 3k mark. The Master build basses are even more money than the Pino...

Our friend Hiram had the truss on his Flea Jazz break, but more alarmingly my friend bought a new CS bass that came with a busted truss rod. I can’t believe it left the factory like that as it wouldn’t even adjust anywhere near the position it should have been. Also, the shop didn’t pick up on it either, nor on another second hand CS they sold him with a busted rod. 

Whats the world coming to eh?  

[rollie 55]

2 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said:

Unfortunately not Don, the Pino basses are team built, and many of the other team builds are over the 3k mark. The Master build basses are even more money than the Pino...

Our friend Hiram had the truss on his Flea Jazz break, but more alarmingly my friend bought a new CS bass that came with a busted truss rod. I can’t believe it left the factory like that as it wouldn’t even adjust anywhere near the position it should have been. Also, the shop didn’t pick up on it either, nor on another second hand CS they sold him with a busted rod. 

Whats the world coming to eh?  

no one seems to care anymore

[Beedster]

Snake oil 

[FDC484950]

24 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

There's only so much love and care you can put into something so simple, three blocks of wood in the cnc machine and hand sand the edges a bit, a few screws and a lick of paint. 

Fixed

Usually really obvious, especially on a sunburst, with little attempt to match contrasting grain!

[rollie 55]

1 minute ago, FDC484950 said:

Fixed

Usually really obvious, especially on a sunburst, with little attempt to match contrasting grain!

😎 to true

[gareth]

I love Fenders but there's no way I'd pay £4000

I'd say £2000 tops for a new one

Ive got a 2000ish CS jazz and it's about the quality of the Fullerton avris I've got.

The best Fender buy is the MIM Classic Series

[Chiliwailer]

1 minute ago, gareth said:

 

The best Fender buy is the MIM Classic Series

Exactly, though I wish they did a 60's rosewood board P Bass. If, or when,  I need to sell my 66 P Bass that's what I'd be satisfied with. 

[stingrayPete1977]

18 minutes ago, FDC484950 said:

Fixed

Usually really obvious, especially on a sunburst, with little attempt to match contrasting grain!

Really, not even a slab body like my overrated yet half the price musicman classic? 

[Owen]

People will pay it. Why would they not sell it at that price then?

[stingrayPete1977]

23 minutes ago, owen said:

People will pay it. Why would they not sell it at that price then?

And they need every cent they can get, how many millions in debt are Fender this year? 

[drTStingray]

4 hours ago, Chiliwailer said:

Unfortunately not Don, the Pino basses are team built, and many of the other team builds are over the 3k mark. The Master build basses are even more money than the Pino...

Our friend Hiram had the truss on his Flea Jazz break, but more alarmingly my friend bought a new CS bass that came with a busted truss rod. I can’t believe it left the factory like that as it wouldn’t even adjust anywhere near the position it should have been. Also, the shop didn’t pick up on it either, nor on another second hand CS they sold him with a busted rod. 

Whats the world coming to eh?  

I didn't realise they were team-built - so the just over £2k for a Stingray Special doesn't sound expensive in comparison. I guess there's a mark-up for the Pino name then.

How much do they ask for a master-built one? 

Oh and worrying regarding the truss rods. Let's hope they fixed the basses. 

Edited December 30, 2018 by drTStingray

[Chiliwailer]

17 minutes ago, drTStingray said:

I didn't realise they were team-built - so the just over £2k for a Stingray Special doesn't sound expensive in comparison. I guess there's a mark-up for the Pino name then.

How much do they ask for a master-built one? 

Oh and worrying regarding the truss rods. Let's hope they fixed the basses. 

I’ve not seen any Masterbuilt basses for sale, as new, but the electric guitars can be £5 - £6.5k on the Coda site. Second hand I’ve seen them around £3- £4k depending.  There is a TB topic that has them pitched at $8k. 

Fender did replace the neck on the new one. Actually I remembered after that the other was a warped neck, not the truss. The shop denied it, crazy. (BTW I spent 16 years in the trade, including Fender, so I knew my onions).

Yes, it does make the Ray Special seem cheaper!  

 

[Cuzzie]

Sure it plays beautifully, but I agree it’s a little steep.

Having seen the care and attention Sandberg put into their bases, especially their masterpiece bases (let’s put finish aside). I would say £2-3k is a decent price and they play magnificently.