foxyFuze Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Really getting into this band: great album and lo-fi sound to everything they do. Good to see a Jazz bass too! Any ideas of what else might be going on aside from the kit pictured to achieve that sound - particular strings perhaps? No YouTube videos so it's a Spotify link instead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Not sure - can’t open that link in safari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyFuze Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Geek99 said: Not sure - can’t open that link in safari hmm, works fine with Chrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Jazz Bass, everything up. Roundwounds of any brand. Pick. Ampeg stack (optional) Done* Si *its a recording, there will undoubtably be some EQing & compression happening by the engineer/masterer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyFuze Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sibob said: Jazz Bass, everything up. Roundwounds of any brand. Pick. Ampeg stack (optional) Done* Si *its a recording, there will undoubtably be some EQing & compression happening by the engineer/masterer. Yes, last point very valid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkfingers Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 The bass guitar in the photograph has some sort of onboard active EQ/pre-amp electronics. No obvious evidence of the EQ running at extreme settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Also worth noting that the recorded bass isn’t necessarily what he uses live. Ask him on social media?! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I think he's got an active jazz with a pan pot rather than the standard VVT. So at a guess he's balancing the pickups with the pan pot, with the pot set more or less in the middle, maybe with slightly more bridge pickup. Easy to do with the pan pot, a bit more fiddly with a VVT. Edited January 7, 2018 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Cato said: I think he's got an active jazz with a pan pot rather than the standard VVT. So at a guess he's balancing the pickups with the pan pot, with the pot set more or less in the middle, maybe with slightly more bridge pickup. Easy to do with the pan pot, a bit more fiddly with a VVT. this. I find with a VVT the sweet spot is neck pup full, bridge pup backed off until the slight mid boost occurs.All is personal taste of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The controls on the SVT are set to an interesting pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 hours ago, bazzbass said: this. I find with a VVT the sweet spot is neck pup full, bridge pup backed off until the slight mid boost occurs.All is personal taste of course I do the same but back off the neck slightly. Either way, the tiniest backing off of either really changes the sound quite a bit; the term "opens up" seems to fit with how it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Do you guys think the 70s v 60s bridge pick up location makes a difference to the 'Jazz' sound? Certainly Marcus Miller has the 70s location - not sure whether Jaco altered his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyFuze Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, drTStingray said: Do you guys think the 70s v 60s bridge pick up location makes a difference to the 'Jazz' sound? Certainly Marcus Miller has the 70s location - not sure whether Jaco altered his. There's a subtle difference you can spot when compared side by side; the V7 vs V7 vintage videos online would indicate this. Could someone tell my Vintage from the normal V7 live in a band? Maybe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, drTStingray said: Do you guys think the 70s v 60s bridge pick up location makes a difference to the 'Jazz' sound? Certainly Marcus Miller has the 70s location - not sure whether Jaco altered his. It definitely sounds different, slightly... but it's another flavour of the same sound, to my ears, and not worth worrying about. I've had both and in the end I always preferred the 60s placement, as the bridge alone in the 70s position was too thin for me. Edited January 7, 2018 by mcnach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Can't say about the jazz bass but I'm about to buy a new 22 fret guitar because the differently spaced neck pickup in my 24 fret guitar sounds a lot different so I'd believe the different placement of the j bridge pups could well be quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cloud Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 20:50, Sibob said: Jazz Bass, everything up. Roundwounds of any brand. Pick. Ampeg stack (optional) Done* Si *its a recording, there will undoubtably be some EQing & compression happening by the engineer/masterer. This, with one exception...Ampeg stack madatory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 As soon as you get to the last bit... the bit with a *... it could be anything and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 hours ago, EBS_freak said: As soon as you get to the last bit... the bit with a *... it could be anything and everything. That's always the tripping point when trying to find how to get a sound on a record. There could be all sorts of fairly extreme processing done in the mixing. Not so much with bass, but with guitar the track is often double tracked very tightly which changes the sound so much. The bass part may well be doubled with a synth for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The bass is a Mexican Jazz deluxe with a 3-band EQ. Make of that what you will. You might be able to get an idea of how he's EQ'ing it from the knobs. The third is a stack bass & treble cut /boost and the last is mid cut/boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Have you confirmed that the bass on the recording is the one he uses live? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyFuze Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Sibob said: Have you confirmed that the bass on the recording is the one he uses live? Si I'm not an obsessive fan, but I'm inclined to believe it is. They're not making GnR levels of cash selling out stadiums with endless supplies of guitars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, foxyFuze said: I'm not an obsessive fan, but I'm inclined to believe it is. They're not making GnR levels of cash selling out stadiums with endless supplies of guitars! There’s pics of him playing a Precision too. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 People can use the studio's basses or hire in for the recording and video shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyFuze Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Yes, both fair points. I think their recording was somewhat of a DIY affair with own instruments but there's always a possibility it's a borrowed instrument. The P seems to be rare in appearance compared with the J. I'm a novice with production stuff but I take the point about studio and mastering techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I've heard quite a wee bit over the years from engineers that often bassists are requested to use a P in the studio, even if they use something else live, because it fits so well and the engineers know how to use it. Has that been anyone's experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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