Kirky Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I've bought cables from OMMB and they're excellent. I've also made my own recently using the same components that OBBM uses - Van Damme cable and Neutrik connectors. I've notice a significant variation in tone and volume between some of the cables I've made despite them having the same components and being roughly the same length. Guess my soldering must be at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd1 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I've used Monster cables for about 15 years, never had to replace any and quality is top notch. If I was looking to replace I would prob buy Monster again, but if I was looking for a custom size I would go with OBBM . Just because of the recommendation I have read posted on BC for many years, you can't beet a good recommendation. Ta very glad BIGd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 If you do a search you'll find that Monster have some very questionable business practices. Personally I'd never buy one of their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 OBBM for me, instrument and speaker cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 After some digging around, it seems the "Zerocap" cable might be legit. The idea is described in this patent application http://www.google.com/patents/US8246384 Apparently it uses the "driven shield" principle which is already used in precision measuring equipment. Don't think I'll bother though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1417630090' post='2622466'] If you do a search you'll find that Monster have some very questionable business practices. Personally I'd never buy one of their products. [/quote] @BigRed - I'm intrigued, (and can't find anything searching). How are they bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='Drax' timestamp='1417635387' post='2622569'] How are they bad? [/quote] I don't know. This, perhaps..? [url="http://consumerist.com/2008/02/08/monster-cables-monster-ripoff-80-markups/"]http://consumerist.com/2008/02/08/monster-cables-monster-ripoff-80-markups/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1417602069' post='2622062'] Same here !! [/quote] Van Damme & Neutrik. Same here, make them up myself. Some of the claims made & prices charged are quite astounding. Edited December 3, 2014 by grandad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 This repost is not aimed at anyone specific, before I get (more) hate mail....just sayin'....... Love the link - I'm in retail, at the sharp end (think Leases, Business rates, wages, holiday pay (them, not me),Lighting and heating expenses,local trade association memberships,company transport, accountants, solicitors, bank charges) ....I could go on, but I won't...and some pr*ck has the nerve to grizzle about Radio Shack trying to make a buck? Buy it on the Bay if it's cheaper....off you go and good riddance....just don't winge when your local dealership (which you never bought f-all from) ceases to trade - because, yes, it IS your fault bro........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 OK then, just for balance... [url="http://consumerist.com/2008/02/19/monster-responds-to-monster-cables-monster-ripoff/"]http://consumerist.com/2008/02/19/monster-responds-to-monster-cables-monster-ripoff/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='dincz' timestamp='1417634338' post='2622541'] After some digging around, it seems the "Zerocap" cable might be legit. The idea is described in this patent application [url="http://www.google.com/patents/US8246384"]http://www.google.co...tents/US8246384[/url] Apparently it uses the "driven shield" principle which is already used in precision measuring equipment. Don't think I'll bother though. [/quote] I'm not doubting their claims of zero capacitance, but the claim that there is no difference in tone regardless of cable length is clearly pants. Unless you're using it at almost absolute zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='taunton-hobbit' timestamp='1417636652' post='2622588'] This repost is not aimed at anyone specific, before I get (more) hate mail....just sayin'....... Love the link - I'm in retail, at the sharp end (think Leases, Business rates, wages, holiday pay (them, not me),Lighting and heating expenses,local trade association memberships,company transport, accountants, solicitors, bank charges) ....I could go on, but I won't...and some pr*ck has the nerve to grizzle about Radio Shack trying to make a buck? Buy it on the Bay if it's cheaper....off you go and good riddance....just don't winge when your local dealership (which you never bought f-all from) ceases to trade - because, yes, it IS your fault bro........... [/quote] Umm, is this about cables? I'm confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 OBBM here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 i use fender cables, very happy with the sound and quality, i use the planet waves cables on my pedalboard tho. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Ben Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 go wireless and be free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1417638430' post='2622607'] I'm not doubting their claims of zero capacitance, but the claim that there is no difference in tone regardless of cable length is clearly pants. Unless you're using it at almost absolute zero. [/quote] Absolute zero would relate to resistance. Cable resistance is insignificant compared to both pickup impedance and amp input impedance, so tone wouldn't be significantly affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417635699' post='2622574'] I don't know. This, perhaps..? [url="http://consumerist.com/2008/02/08/monster-cables-monster-ripoff-80-markups/"]http://consumerist.c...off-80-markups/[/url] [/quote] I was thinking more along the lines of [url=http://www.audioholics.com/news/monster-cable]their apparent need to try and sue any company that has the word "monster" in their name[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Over many years I bought lots and lots of yardage of Klotz cable from Scayles Music in Edinburgh & lots n lots of Neutrik jacks from Maplins - learned to solder and none have let me down so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1417644604' post='2622696'] I was thinking more along the lines of [url="http://www.audioholics.com/news/monster-cable"]their apparent need to try and sue any company that has the word "monster" in their name[/url]. [/quote] Wow. As stated, if you Google 'monster cable sues', you certainly do get a lot of results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd1 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The articles on Monster cables seem to say the retailer is at fault not Monster. It looks to me that the retailers are marking up the prices for bigger profit. Monster seem to be in the wrong, and to be honest, can't say I care. 15 or so years looks flippin good value to me, I love um ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Another one here happily using Monster cables for years. However, I do get all of my speaker cables from obbm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Maybe I've a weaker moral compass, but over zealous trademark lawyers, or a high retail mark-up doesn't turn me off a brand. Very pro small companies like OBBM (and will go to there next now I know about them), but if you also use Apple, Nike, Fender, Ford, whatever, there's always something less than wholesome going on behind the scenes somewhere. Life's too short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='Drax' timestamp='1417648212' post='2622764'] ...there's always something less than wholesome going on behind the scenes everywhere. [/quote] Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417648773' post='2622771'] Fixed it for you. [/quote] Yeah unfortunately that's more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I use (largely) Vann Damm cables - seems to be the thing around here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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