lettsguitars Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 would a few bricks do the same job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Tipping Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1330368022' post='1556366'] would a few bricks do the same job? [/quote] ?? interesting idea .. might chafe a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Tipping Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 [url="http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2556194/The-Scottish-Sun-investigates-vice-in-Dundee.html"]http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2556194/The-Scottish-Sun-investigates-vice-in-Dundee.html[/url] Only in Dundee would you call a ford focus estate a "flashy silver sports car" ... according to the article I got my pricing a little wrong (not far off though) .. having said that that was back in 2009 you might get a better deal now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Dave Tipping' timestamp='1330371382' post='1556431'] ?? interesting idea .. might chafe a little. [/quote] That caught me out for a second or two as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Tipping Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Just in from my first gig with the gramma pad tonight ... First impressions are very positive! In addition I nicked a couple of acoustic ceiling tiles and dense foam backed carpet tiles from my work and built a couple of pads for the monitors and for under our singers heavy circular based mic stand. Starting with the monitors ... the pub we were in tonight has very hard surfaces around the stage area (tiles everywhere and timber floor. With a bit of ceiling tile and carpet isolating the singers mic from the monitor I was able to get her monitor considerably louder without it feeding back at all. On to the bass, As others have stated the pad really does get rid of a lot of mush and tighten the bottom half of your sound .. the one think you have to do almost instantly is adjust your eq from your usual settings. For me this meant dialing back in a bit of bass. The one think that took a bit of getting used to was the fact I was getting a fraction of the vibration I'm used to feeling it through the floor .. that said I actually had my amp a little quieter than usual .. not for any other reason than it was cutting through nicely and sitting great in the mix. This whole de-coupling idea really does seem to work to great effect (I guess It's fairly obvious why). I've got another gig tomorrow night .. then on Sat so I will report any additional findings then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBbass Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Can anyone suggest where the cheapest place to get one is? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='CBbass' timestamp='1330702250' post='1561900'] Can anyone suggest where the cheapest place to get one is? Thanks [/quote] I have an invisible one for £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1330702581' post='1561908'] I have an invisible one for £30. [/quote] I had one of those but cant find it now :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjas Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='CBbass' timestamp='1330702250' post='1561900'] Can anyone suggest where the cheapest place to get one is? Thanks [/quote] I have just bought one from Dolphin Music [url="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/36069-auralex-gramma-amp-monitor-isolation-riser-single-.html#sterling_uk"]http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/36069-auralex-gramma-amp-monitor-isolation-riser-single-.html#sterling_uk[/url] £38 plus £4 postage. I couldn't find it any cheaper? I havent tried it out yet, that will happen on Wednesday at a pub gig on a hollow floor. I have played there before and I will def notice if there is any difference in sound............... Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Mine just showed up and I'll give it a try at rehearsal tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I'm making mine at the weekend. I would've had to go for the Great Gramma which is about £68, but I reckon mine's gonna cost about £20, and that's with the proper Auralex Platfoam! I'll let you know how it goes..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 [quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1331141100' post='1568401'] I'm making mine at the weekend. I would've had to go for the Great Gramma which is about £68, but I reckon mine's gonna cost about £20, and that's with the proper Auralex Platfoam! I'll let you know how it goes..... [/quote] Excellent Someone else (apologies I can't remember who it was) made themselves one a while back and reported that it worked just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Tipping Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 After being so impressed with mine (and the concept) I've put together a couple of pads for our stage monitors made by sandwiching an acoustic ceiling tile in between two foam backed carpet tile samples and taping it together .. you can easily get noticeable results DIY'ing it .. I've been able to get a decent bit more volume out of our monitors before them feeding back for free! For me the gramma pad is good value for money though. It's really well made, looks pro, lightweight, sturdy, comes with a carry handle and really works. When you consider the amount of money we all spent on our amps and other gear .. £40 for a nice looking plinth and for it all to sound better is well worth the dosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalMan Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Studiospares were advertising their own brand for around £29 recently IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm not totally convinced just yet, only having tried the Gramma pad at rehersal last night. The room we use has a very thick wooden floor, so I guess the sound/bass is pretty focused and tight bouncing off there anyway. I did have to raise the volume knob slightly from what I was normally using (either that or the sneeky guitarists had turned up!). The main reason I got it was for gigs and trying to keep a uniform sound so I'll see how I get on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Anyone know whether there's any benefit of using one of these with a down-firing speaker such as the Mesa Walkabout or Acoustic Image Contra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1331224942' post='1569828'] Anyone know whether there's any benefit of using one of these with a down-firing speaker such as the Mesa Walkabout or Acoustic Image Contra? [/quote] I don't see any reason why the benefits wouldn't be the same. It's just about isolating the cab from the floor, and preventing the transference of vibration as far as I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Spencer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Seems like a good idea. May be worth a future investment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Did mine yesterday [attachment=102893:IMG_1795.JPG] [attachment=102894:IMG_1796.JPG] [attachment=102895:IMG_1797.JPG] Quite pleased with it actually, it's turned out really good. No overlaps or staples; I left a few inches to wrap around the back, mitred the corners and then cut a piece to fill the middle of the backside. You have to look hard to see the joins, so I'm pretty chuffed how it turned out. The board is 18mm MDF, and the adhesive I used is Stuk Professional Rapid Spray Glue - Heavy Duty Formula. The adhesive was cheaper than some of the big name brands, but I was advised that a lot of professional carpet fitters and upholsterers use it. It has stuck the fabric to the board and the foam to the fabric VERY securely. It did stick my knees to the dust sheet I was working on too! The fabric is actually some disposable industrial matting from work, but it feels very much like the right sort of material, and it can withstand months of heavy industrial foot traffic, so it should wear fine. looking forward to trying it out on Tuesday! I've got a rehearsal for a gig I'm doing with the local Soul Choir, and the rehearsal is at a school hall with a suspended timber floor, so it should be a good test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 ^^ Looks a good job look forward to the 'school hall test' results. Cheerz, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1332106096' post='1583451'] Did mine yesterday [attachment=102893:IMG_1795.JPG] [attachment=102894:IMG_1796.JPG] [attachment=102895:IMG_1797.JPG] Quite pleased with it actually, it's turned out really good. No overlaps or staples; I left a few inches to wrap around the back, mitred the corners and then cut a piece to fill the middle of the backside. You have to look hard to see the joins, so I'm pretty chuffed how it turned out. The board is 18mm MDF, and the adhesive I used is Stuk Professional Rapid Spray Glue - Heavy Duty Formula. The adhesive was cheaper than some of the big name brands, but I was advised that a lot of professional carpet fitters and upholsterers use it. It has stuck the fabric to the board and the foam to the fabric VERY securely. It did stick my knees to the dust sheet I was working on too! The fabric is actually some disposable industrial matting from work, but it feels very much like the right sort of material, and it can withstand months of heavy industrial foot traffic, so it should wear fine. looking forward to trying it out on Tuesday! I've got a rehearsal for a gig I'm doing with the local Soul Choir, and the rehearsal is at a school hall with a suspended timber floor, so it should be a good test. [/quote] That looks pretty damn close to the 'real thing' apart from the gap between the two foam platforms. Mine has a foam infill made of ridged purple foam with a vvvvvvv sort of pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1332112216' post='1583577'] That looks pretty damn close to the 'real thing' apart from the gap between the two foam platforms. Mine has a foam infill made of ridged purple foam with a vvvvvvv sort of pattern. [/quote] Thanks! Yeah, I experimented a bit with the position of the foam before I glued it, and it just seemed like it would offer the most stability spaced like that. The foam pretty much matches the outside dimensions of my rig, about 1.5" inset from the edge of the board. As I'm trying to keep costs down, I figured I could do without the vvvvvvv foam for now but I can always stick some on at a later date if needs be. Auralex say it's to "eliminate wolf notes" or something, so I'll keep an ear out for any howling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) I should add that I made it 27" X 21", I think about 3 - 3.5" bigger than a standard Gramma Pad (which my rig would've overhung slightly). That might be part of the reason that the gap in the centre looks bigger. Edited March 18, 2012 by TRBboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengreen49 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'm going to make one. That price is crazy for a bit of MDF and some foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1332106096' post='1583451'] ...I left a few inches to wrap around the back... [/quote] Always a worthwhile precaution. Fnarr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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