dave_bass5 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Ive just tried IE8 and IE9 on two of my work PC's and they work fine (speed wise) so i think its possibly more to it than just the server getting bogged down. Oh, and FF6 and Chrome seem ok here as well. Edited September 26, 2011 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sometimes it's loading pages like *snaps fingers* that, and sometimes it's taking >10 secs to open a thread. I'm at work (Uni) so I don't think I want for bandwidth. Probably server load. It'll calm down once the migration is fully complete. Go make a cup of tea. White, no sugar, ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 And that took >10 secs to post, FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1317034602' post='1385617'] As far as I am concerned, better the devil you know, I don't have any other browsers and I am not about to downlad, Chrome, Safari, or others because the way I see it if I.E. works with all the other forums and website I use, why should I try something else I am not familiar with? The problem is here in-house within the new forum software. [/quote] I think you missed the point entirely, I was asking you to try it to see if it was the same, not stop using what you do now and swap over. If you don't want to help us to help you, then we are stuck aren't we ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 It's taking ages for pages to load for me - 20 secs plus most times , others it won't load at all. Abut every third attempt I end up losing the will to live and logging out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottswarwick Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1317034635' post='1385618']Thanks Ped. The site loads quick enough on my iPhone, its just the text entry i have a problem with.[/quote] iPhone 4 on wifi. All other sites v fast, this one painful and very laggy text. Defo a site issue not a iPhone issue. No probs on my MacBook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 We're still converting posts which is locking things up so please try to be patient as it's just something we have to get done. We'll get round to doing the mobile interface also soon but again please be patient. If you feel the need to post that the forum is too slow after this message please just log out and give it a few days or something because it's just going to take a little time now. The server is all paid for and has lots of capacity to make the site super fast but we can't do anything at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Machines' timestamp='1317035071' post='1385631'] I think you missed the point entirely, I was asking you to try it to see if it was the same, not stop using what you do now and swap over. If you don't want to help us to help you, then we are stuck aren't we ? [/quote] Wow. good luck fixing it. Edited September 26, 2011 by Grand Wazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1317041408' post='1385797'] Wow. good luck fixing it. [/quote] Let me draw a parallel. I'm a bass shop and you've bought an amp from me. You get it home and report it buzzes when you're using your favourite bass. I ask if you get the problem from another bass, you tell me you only want to use THAT bass so aren't going to tell me, but expect me replace the amp without confirmation that it's definitely faulty. I may very well sound like i'm getting frustrated here, but my day job revolves around root cause analysis and fault finding, and much of being able to this things relies on co-operation from people. Without that - not much happens . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 FWIW, it's hurtling along for me at the moment on laptop and iPhone (with the exception of laggy text input on the phone). As it seems to be related to the load on the DB, surely it would be easier to put something at the top of the page to say 'Please be patient while the new site completes the upgrade' or similar? I know I keep mentioning this, but it seems like a quick win - people are assured it's acknowledged and in-hand, and Ped & Co. stop getting nagged about the performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I don't tknow how easy it is to have a mesage at the top like that - probably easiest just to wait it out, I hope it won't be too long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) You could maybe put it in the email notifications. On the subject of those (i know this isnt the right thread), i still cant get money figures to show properly. Im still getting code instead of the £ symbol followed by a number. Oh, and yeah, its pretty fast here at the moment. Edited September 26, 2011 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Come on chaps. This is a server side load related intermittent issue. Give the guys a break, it will resolve when the migration is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1317046434' post='1385889']Come on chaps. This is a server side load related intermittent issue. Give the guys a break, it will resolve when the migration is complete.[/quote] That's my point. Only a tiny percentage of the BC user base who have bothered to trawl through this thread know this. The rest just think it's slow and occasionally unusable. The key is to get out there and tell everyone to bear with it. The horse has bolted, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Safari no difference, there I have made my tests. here things remain slow. I then tested my Virgin Broadband at [url="http://www.speedtest.net"]www.speedtest.net[/url] and I got 48meg download/upload speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I can't see how typing latency can be server problem? Surely the browser requests the page from the server with the post interface which then loads into your browser window. You type into the resulting data field. There should be no further communication between the browser and the Basschat server until you click the post button. Do you have any other pages open at the same time in either separate windows or tabs? If so close them and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't try I would suspect a dodgy ad. Try running an ad-blocker to see if that improves things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1317069723' post='1386450'] Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Safari no difference, there I have made my tests. here things remain slow. [/quote] I've used IE, Firefox, and Chrome and all are very fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Ok... to respon to BigRedX no I didn't have any other pages or browsers open.. Can I repeat one more time that if I shut down basschat and I open 6 or more other random pages including other php bulletin forums or fori, they all run fast. It's here that I am having the issue ever since the update took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1946 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I've just had my wrist slapped for not knowing that latency means slow, I started a new thread called slowwww and it was the wrong thing to do. If I had to searc oh never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Why are people getting their knickers in a knot? It's like a padded cell full of cold turkeys in here - Basschat withdrawal symptoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1317027017' post='1385488'] Yes it's got be my PC, right? Perhaps it's because it's too new and too fast for this? [IMG]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/xt660/286251dc.jpg[/IMG] And I am also on a Virgin optic 50Meg broadband, honestly guv every other site and fori I visit is flying, I have no idea why BC runs slow on my pc[/quote] If you are experiencing typing latency it is something your end not playing nice. Which version of what browser are you using? What type of security software are you using? (Certain types of security software sniff javascript events and can inject code to try and work out what is going on and keep everything 'safe' and/or intercept requests and parse them. Typically if you havent got that sort of thing getting in the way then IME typing latency is something going a bit haywire in the browser because it just doesnt get on with some of the data structures being passed about and held on to in the page. It used to be the case that older IE versions and FF versions got very tied up by this sort of thing. In recent years (since IE7, FF3) this has been less and less of an issue as javascript performance have become important for bragging rights between browser coders. The one thing I think it isnt is down to the server having had load in your case. Very unusual, do you have a browser capable of laoding plugins at all? If so try disabling them (yup all), if that makes a differenc, then turn thm back on one at a time and see if one of them is the culprit. Only other thing to try is a completely different browser. if that shows the same issues, then its something other than the browser, but its still your end, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Mr. Wazoo - there's no traffic / processing happening across 'tinternet when you type - only when selecting certain options from the toolbar above. Any lagginess you're getting while typing standard text is a local issue. Trying another browser and letting us know whether it's still a problem will be very useful to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1317124602' post='1386967'] Mr. Wazoo - there's no traffic / processing happening across 'tinternet when you type - only when selecting certain options from the toolbar above. Any lagginess you're getting while typing standard text is a local issue. Trying another browser and letting us know whether it's still a problem will be very useful to know. [/quote] I agree with this, otherwise everyone would be having the same issues. But, no one has come up with a reason why iPhone users are suffering with really poor text lagging. Based on the last few posts saying its got to be at our end i would assume its a compatibility issue with the forum software and Safari (on iPhone), couldn't this also cause issues on a PC with desktop browsers? Just thinking out aloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Not sure but hopefully Ben is on it, I presume it's an iphone issue and the reason we'll have a mobile interfece too. I recall another camera forum I use having a text lag issue which was fixed... I'll see if I can dig it up as an example to help us too. ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1317126049' post='1387003'] But, no one has come up with a reason why iPhone users are suffering with really poor text lagging. Based on the last few posts saying its got to be at our end i would assume its a compatibility issue with the forum software and Safari (on iPhone), couldn't this also cause issues on a PC with desktop browsers? [/quote] It could, but you would expect more people to be affected. As far as I'm aware the iPhone issue is affecting loads of people - lagging while typing on PCs is only a very small number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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