algmusic Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='charic' post='964603' date='Sep 22 2010, 03:59 PM']You mean you can't?! I use a duracell in my passive precision... added growl and smoothness [/quote] I just hold the duracell next to my bass and the electric current.. increases the bass.. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I like the fact he used to change the sounds between songs and parts himself on his pedalboard.. now his tech just does it... A true bassist doesn't understand pedals anyway :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I like the fact he used to change the sounds between songs and parts himself on his pedalboard.. now his tech just does it... A true bassist doesn't understand pedals anyway :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='algmusic' post='964618' date='Sep 22 2010, 04:16 PM']A true bassist doesn't understand pedals anyway :-P[/quote] A true bassist doesnt need pedals :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='dave_bass5' post='964546' date='Sep 22 2010, 03:06 PM']Ah, but who on here would go and see them ;-) Some people on here would claim they could tell if he had a Duracell or Eveready battery in his bass lol.[/quote] No, a TRUE bassist claims they can tell what colour the lining of the interior of the instrument's case is, purely by listening. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='964488' date='Sep 22 2010, 02:01 PM']....oh and he's just wants to screw up any Muse tribute bands out there![/quote] That is very true..we are looking at a Muse track with heavily distorted bass...and it is very hard to get anywhere near that sound across the strings.. Admittedly, I am only using a Tone Hammer, or trying to use that. Anyway..you know what we have come up with... as a get around? A straights 8ths thumbed sound...not double plucked as that washes out too easily. Not perfect but it gives the line prominence and keeps it right up front and we can bin the distortion idea. And it saves me having to buy a dedicated fuzz box thingey for the purpose of one song. As much of a result as I can be bothered with for a Muse song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Speaking as someone who spent £50 on an Electro Harmonix big muff and £40 on a octave pedal to do some Muse tracks, I can say that when I play my Jazz through my Ashdown and the pedals, I sound absolutley nothing like CW. Is this good or bad? Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Conan' post='964460' date='Sep 22 2010, 01:37 PM']So how come with all that gear, his sound is essentially the same for every track? [/quote] Its cos the first sounded sh*te and after elentyten others it was confirmed "worse than first thought".....possibly ....maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhenry Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I remember Tony Levin talking about a time when he was playing through loads of pedals and whilst onstage, realised it was getting a bit ridiculous. He said he pulled the lead out of his bass and twirled it around......and the sound didn't change a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 What you on about they all sound the same? The Status ones sound way worse and a lot thinner than all his others! (Running away from the usual Status suspects!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Frankly, I should think he wouldn't care too much about a few detractors on an internet forum arguing why he has so many basses after selling millions of albums worldwide and becoming one of the most successful British recording artists ever. I think Chris Wolstenholme had the misfortune of becoming one of those cult bass players who's sound became one of the most widely imitated in current years. I've seen a few people go out and buy Pedullas, then sell them and get Rickenbackers because that's what he did, and then buy a Zon or whatever etc. etc. he probably must just laugh to himself and count himself lucky that so many people care about a sound that he created in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='risingson' post='965121' date='Sep 22 2010, 11:29 PM']Frankly, I should think he wouldn't care too much about a few detractors on an internet forum arguing why he has so many basses after[b] selling millions of albums[/b] worldwide and becoming one of the most successful British recording artists ever.[/quote] Did he sell them all at car boot fairs Edited September 22, 2010 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='dave_bass5' post='965125' date='Sep 22 2010, 11:35 PM']Did he sell them all at car boot fairs [/quote] Yeh, I had to sell my VW Polo straight away after I saw he was conducting the carboot sale out of an old Focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapillonIrl Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) I actually think that he has some cool sounds, but that rig is just ridiculous. Reminds of that quote 'Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.' The different chains will eventually achieve mystic qualities as they get more complicated and there will be 16 guys backstage programming and switching things in and out at various points. None of which can ever be fired because everybody is scared that the system has become so incomprehensible that nobody will ever figure out what it is that they did. Wait... it is actually the Irish Public Service I am annoyed at. Carry on Chris. Edited September 22, 2010 by PapillonIrl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='risingson' post='965121' date='Sep 22 2010, 11:29 PM']Frankly, I should think he wouldn't care too much about a few detractors on an internet forum arguing why he has so many basses after selling millions of albums worldwide and becoming one of the most successful British recording artists ever. I think Chris Wolstenholme had the misfortune of becoming one of those cult bass players who's sound became one of the most widely imitated in current years. I've seen a few people go out and buy Pedullas, then sell them and get Rickenbackers because that's what he did, and then buy a Zon or whatever etc. etc. he probably must just laugh to himself and count himself lucky that so many people care about a sound that he created in the first place.[/quote] hilarous..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I do like those videos of incredibly complex live set ups. I saw the Justin Chancellor one, where the Wal bass sound is processed through lots of different processors, pre-amps effects and 'clean' and 'dirty' rigs. I admire the effort and both players have the money to try whatever set up they want, so more power to them. I prefer the Matt Pike one, its funnier and despite him being a guitarist, I at least have a vague idea of how the rig works! Not sure he was that sober when doing it though. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvuuhr4fcz0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvuuhr4fcz0[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='964836' date='Sep 22 2010, 07:52 PM']What you on about they all sound the same? The Status ones sound way worse and a lot thinner than all his others! (Running away from the usual Status suspects!)[/quote] His Status collection should certainly be rescued by someone who can put it to good use (Eg, someone who will let the basses shine and be heard). Leave Chris Walthamstowe or whatever his name is with a P bass, it'll sound just the same through his rig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparky Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Personally, if i was in a band which toured around the world playing huge stadiums, full of tens of thousands of people at a time, and to millions of people throughout the duration of a tour who wanted to hear me play music that me and my mates wrote, i'd change basses every song. In fact, i'd change batteries in the bass between each song, I'd have every pedal that had been manufactured, sitting around, ready, just in case, and of course a thousand brown M&M's in a brandy glass at every gig. All because i'd be in a world famous rock band playing stadiums, and therefore I'd be able to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='bluesparky' post='965385' date='Sep 23 2010, 10:53 AM']Personally, if i was in a band which toured around the world playing huge stadiums, full of tens of thousands of people at a time, and to millions of people throughout the duration of a tour who wanted to hear me play music that me and my mates wrote, i'd change basses every song. In fact, i'd change batteries in the bass between each song, I'd have every pedal that had been manufactured, sitting around, ready, just in case, and of course a thousand brown M&M's in a brandy glass at every gig. All because i'd be in a world famous rock band playing stadiums, and therefore I'd be able to do that.[/quote] Too right, same here. I would also have way to many large cabs, because i don't have to carry them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='Chris2112' post='965349' date='Sep 23 2010, 10:23 AM']His Status collection should certainly be rescued by someone who can put it to good use (Eg, someone who will let the basses shine and be heard). Leave Chris Walthamstowe or whatever his name is with a P bass, it'll sound better through his rig![/quote] Fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='JTUK' post='965136' date='Sep 22 2010, 11:50 PM']hilarous.....[/quote] I like Muse, but I think people have their right of opinion. Funny though, everyone who I have spoken to who have seen them, whether they bought ticket last minute off a mate or just went with crowd of mate said they do great stadium show.. So I guess some of the gear does help.. Alot of people buy distortion pedal and tone benders etc to emulate his sound... I think Chris really doesn't care.. He's privileged to earn sh*t of cash doing what he loves.. of course he's gonna buy loads of gear and play it on the tours.. does it all make that much difference on a big stage... nah.. but it's a great life :-) Be honest we'd all do the same and if not.. you're lying. Just the BC'esr on this site have enough gear to buy a half a flat :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='matski' post='964396' date='Sep 22 2010, 12:50 PM']So the secret is revealed at last! It is of course due to the eternal quest for [b]TONE[/b]! You see, each of those 5 Jazz basses have different 'subtle tonal nuances'. This is the reason for switching from Fender > Status > Rickenbacker > Gibson Grabber etc., etc. Then of course these subtle nuances are hugely enhanced by running them through a myriad of effects such as Big Muffs, Animatos and octavers.[/quote] Maybe they've did some market research and found that their audience doesn't take drugs, causing a sudden scrabbling for improved sound due to the realisation that the audience will actually remember what they sounded like the next morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) My daughter came back from the Wembley Muse gig with phone video of a massive stage set stuffed with lights, lasers and alien spaceships full of acrobats. Looked great, sounded phenomenal even on a phone, and somewhere in all that lot were some tiny figures apparently playing, or maybe changing, musical instruments. Being very old, I can remember when Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP etc got into all this foolishness in the 1970s and the direct result was Punk Rock. I think you should all be very afraid. Edited September 23, 2010 by spinynorman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) remember reading a story once of how George Formby was such a crap Ukulele player he had a stash of them all tuned differently so he could use the same fingering on every song, makes you think eh? Edited September 23, 2010 by PaulWarning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Does he not use different tunings then? I'm not a Muse fan so I pay no attention to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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