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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1439627687' post='2844444'] No. This I do not agree with. I first stood on stage with a bass when I was 15 because I was influenced by Sweet, Slade, T Rex, The Clash, The Sex Pistols and the increased opportunity to get females. The aforementioned may have well been influenced by The Beatles, but I don't accept my guilt by association. It a bit like saying because I drive a car I must be influenced by the Model T, when day one for me and cars was Roger Moore in a Lotus. [/quote] This. Horace Panter, Bedders and Dave Steele (and subsequently Mark King, a bit of a sideways jump I know ) were the first guys to really inspire me to pick up a bass, so I guess if you follow that line back you could say that my ultimate influences are the original Jamaican ska bassists from the 60s, and later reggae (I'm sure Family Man will have been in there somewhere too). Not a Beatle in sight there if you ask me.

Nice the tort plate looks 100000 times better than the original one.

I suppose any of the artists at the vanguard of a popular genre can be said to be particularly influential, e.g. the hip hop pioneers (Afrika Bambaataa etc)

Love Games, Level 42. E (min I think) Yes, it's a slap riff. Deal with it.

I'd put [i]Pet Sounds [/i]well up on any list of influential albums. [quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439548771' post='2843751'] Except for The Doors maybe, I cant see anything good there tbh. [/quote] Thank god it's not just me feels like that cringeworthy sixth-form lyrics and thoroughly unremarkable music. Everything I've ever heard of The Doors has been utterly meh. [size=3]But then again, I was only 6 when they released Riders On The Storm which means I wasn't really there, so my opinion counts for now't. [/size]

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1439488139' post='2843348'] IMO you should always go back to the vendor and give them a chance to put things right before going public. [/quote] Agreed, and to this end I have removed the vendor name from the OP's posts in an attempt to make it a little less 'name & shame'. Please keep it anonymous for the time being, especially as you say you are not intending to criticise.

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1439213393' post='2840890'] Small bodies, single cuts, the top horn on a Corvette that looks like a nob, bog-seat Bongos, rosewood boards, shiny varnished necks, any of the forty seven million Jazz copies out there (no matter how much they cost), real Jazzes, Rickenbackers, anything other than 4s... [/quote] You've encompassed pretty much everything I own with that list

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1439294605' post='2841587'] Music that you like is a beautiful thing. I still don't see what makes it being played live any more special. [/quote] Hard to describe, but for me it makes it somehow more alive. Listening to great recorded music is a wonderful thing, but seeing and hearing it being performed, there right in front of you, makes it more... personal? I'm making a dreadful job of this explanation

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1439246623' post='2841335'] I also have a strong dislike of guitarists who play blues rock. [/quote] Do you mean a dislike for the guitarists as people, or for their chosen field/techniques?

[quote name='lefrash' timestamp='1439227418' post='2841056'] It's hilarious... Past few years I've went back and forth from multi fx to separates, I just can't make my mind up! [/quote] I dare say an awful lot of us have done that I know I have. For the moment, I'm happy enough with what my Line 6 Pod XT Live gives me -- the FX I want are perfectly useable and the few amp models I use are convincing enough to keep me happy, and the sheer convenience of having everything in one easily transportable box makes it a definite keeper for the foreseeable future.

“[i]Bass should never be a solo instrument[/i]”. Tell that to Saint Saëns [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug8hCAyBaqg[/media]

I think it was "what goes before CMY?".

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1438865924' post='2838195'] This is why the band runs a ktty, but agree the singer might get a decent deal as the band has paid for what might be perceived as his end. They say the band can use it...but funnily the bass doesn't get to go thru it. [/quote] In a band I was in many many years back, the singer owned the PA. It wasn't terribly big, but was man enough for vox, keys, kick drum, etc. We all used to pitch in with setting up, crashing it, etc. After a while the singer announced that he was going to be taking an extra cut from gig income because as he saw it he was effectively hiring his PA to the band. He dropped the idea after bitter complaints from the rest of us and threats to leave from at least two. A few weeks later he said that his wife had been asked if we would play at the leisure centre she worked at... and that consequently he would be taking a "finder's fee" from the income as it was his wife who had got us the gig. Why yes, the band [i]did[/i] go tits up shortly after that, however did you guess?

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1438869814' post='2838256'] Well the 'fact' is bass can be and is played as a solo instrument. The 'opinion' is that it shouldn't be. [/quote] Yes I know, that's kind of what I was getting at.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1438854854' post='2837976'] if anyone genuinely loves music, the only defensible position is 'I like good solos and don't like bad ones but it is entirely down to me to decide which is which'. [/quote] I don't think it's the only defensible position -- to my mind, another one is 'I don't particularly like solos of any sort, but hey, each to his own'. Other than that, brilliant post. As ever, the trouble begins when opinion starts to be presented as fact...

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1438799012' post='2837510'] NO! I loathe bass solos with a passion and hate having to do them at the drop of a hat when the singer suddenly decides it's a good idea. [b]Bass is not and never should be a solo instrument.[/b] [/quote] Ahem. [quote name='Rich' timestamp='1438780544' post='2837206'] It is obvious to me that there will [u]never[/u] be any sort of agreement in the "basses are not suitable instruments for solos / yes they are / no they aren't / yes they are / etc" argument, so can we steer clear of the whole suitability chestnut? Otherwise I can see it getting personal and/or ending in tears. I think there's plenty of room for debate on this subject without that specific facet. [/quote]

Warning: fusion content. Those with an allergy to such things may like to look away now. If I could solo like this (1:40 to 3:00), I'd be the happiest bunny in all of toyland. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cFrYRBYmNw[/media]

It is obvious to me that there will [u]never[/u] be any sort of agreement in the "basses are not suitable instruments for solos / yes they are / no they aren't / yes they are / etc" argument, so can we steer clear of the whole suitability chestnut? Otherwise I can see it getting personal and/or ending in tears. I think there's plenty of room for debate on this subject without that specific facet.

The only vintage instrument i'm really keen on getting is a good '65 Jazz. This is because a} I like Jazzes, b} it'd be my YOB bass, and c} it'd be a good investment. I doubt very much that it'd get many, if any, gigs.

[quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1438778019' post='2837138'] I want to hear good music. If a bass solo sounds good then by all means! I don't care at all what instruments are used to make nice sounds. I care about the nice sounds. [/quote]

I used [url="http://www.rapidonline.com/Electrical-Power/12-25W-Mini-Desktop-SMPSU-9V-DC-1-5A-85-3941"]something like this[/url] when I was using stomps. 1.33A at 9v is enough to drive 170 Tubescreamers.

I like to hear [i]melodic[/i] solos. Playing a blur of notes is one thing, but actually playing something tuneful is a whole different ballgame. Gary Willis and Alain Caron spring to mind as two masters of this. I saw Caron in Mike Stern's band at the Jazz Café a few years ago, and some of his solos were almost songs in their own right -- one of them so much so that the melody got stuck in my head for days. How often does a live solo do that?

FWIW I couldn't stand her voice either, and hated her TV shows. She gave a lot of people pleasure though, so I suppose she must have been doing something right. That notwithstanding, she was still a person with friends and loved ones who will be feeling pain at her loss. It's as sad a time for them as it is for any bereaved people, and it's them I feel sorry for. From what I understand she wasn't in terribly good health these days, and had more than once expressed a desire to 'be with' her husband -- I've read in more than one place that losing him knocked a lot of the life out of her too. Finally -- there's a time and a place for crap/crass jokes, and I would suggest that this thread is neither. Please desist.