TrevorR

Used Picato rounds for several years, after switching from Elites and was always impressed. Going to try out some flays so planned to use those too...

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1452986685' post='2955402'] There's an interesting analysis of 'Sledgehammer' here http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2013/analyzing-the-musical-structure-of-sledgehammer-by-peter-gabriel/ [/quote] Terrifying level of pick-apart-iness but a great read none the less. Love this quote... "As with the drums, the bassline is so on time that it almost sounds sequenced. But no, Tony Levin is just really, really tight." [quote name='gapiro' timestamp='1452982987' post='2955372'] Love sledgehammer, but recently discovered this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiu6RMMNERs [/quote] Came across this vid on the telly once. Great show. IIRC the band all come on and off stage one by one in a big glass elevator in the middle of the stage, which I thought was rather cool. I can just imagine that backing vocalist's audition... "Thank you miss, you've got the job. Oh and by the way, eight songs in you'll be singing Kate Bush's lines... So, no pressure then..." Finally wonder if anyone's thought to do a thematically linked medley of Sledgehammer with this rock and roll classic...? Nah, probably not. http://youtu.be/9brPznl1Av4 (Couple of nice Madness references in that vid though...)

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1452729176' post='2953022'] Minotaur straps do it for me. [/quote] They look really nice. I've not seen them before. If I wasn't all strapped up I'd deffo have a few of those on order! http://www.minotaur.gr/index.php/cPath/25

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1452768291' post='2953195'] Quite simply, brass and woodwind instruments are not in concert pitch (c) - most brass and tenor sax are tuned to Bb, so when they play in the key of C for them the rest of us are in Bb. Just to make things worse, alto sax is tuned to Eb, so when they play a C we have to play Eb. C is the most common key as it has no flats of sharps (black notes on the piano), so is the easiest key to read music in. [/quote] Exactly. Which is why you often hear what we call a clarinet being referred to as a Bb Clarinet. Other turnings are available but generally sneered at. And just wait til you end up in the middle of a horn/sax section chatting about transposing from "normal" keys so they can work out a part...

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1452780428' post='2953423'] I'm going for Cheap Trick [/quote] Budokan? I'm going for the Ian Gillan Band with John Gustafson on bass!

I like Italia Straps. They do nice 4" wide ones in lovely leather. Use them on all my basses. They take a wee while to arrive coz they are shipped direct from the US and they seem to make them up on order a lot. Great comfy straps though. http://www.italiastraps.com And my preference is for Jim Dunlop Strap Loks rather than Schallers.

Also check out the glorious eight minute extended 12" mix which is on one of the "Best Of" albums. Has lots of sections with just bass and drums or with the bass accentuated in the mix which really let you hear what Bernard was doing and what a genius he was. Could be useful for nailing/practicing the parts... http://youtu.be/WgxFlvdYUnM

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1452701009' post='2952590'] I know it did, I read it. I'm sorry to say I couldn't resist being an arse. [/quote] One off lifes' little pleaseures... PS please feel free to enjoy going all Lynn Truss on my ass too!

I'm sure I read somewhere that it was Rocco Prestia's autograph...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1452695698' post='2952520'] I almost hesitate to point it out, but I believe those songs were by The Cure. An honest mistake, I'm sure. [/quote] Slip of the finger... the original post pointed out that I'd never listened through to a full album by either the Smiths AND the Cure. I'd meant to reference them in the sentence too but clearly never quite did. I'm going to decide to plame the vagaries of my iPad keyboard rather than my advancing age... honest gov!

This thread has actually throw up a number of really interesting issues. We will all have swathes of music that we've never bothered/felt the need/been attracted/had the time to check out. There is so much music out there there's just not enough time. There will be lots of reasons why we do or don't listen to artists or genres - all subjective, all just as valid for each of us. Sometimes we listen just because it catches our ear, sometimes we listen to actively educate ourselves, sometime we listen just to find out what we do and don't like. I think that's the great thing about music - it's a broad art form, not a set syllabus. Most of the artists/genres I've got in knowing blind spots I've not explored because for one reason or another they haven't done it for me. And the reasons can be manifold. To take my original examples, like the Smiths. Loved Marr's playing, couldn't abide Morrissey - sufficiently that, bar the odd single, they were an effective no go area for me.[i] [...a little post production drop-in/overdub here... [/i]Same thing with The Cure.[i]] [/i]Apart from Lovecats and Friday I'm In Love they just didn't catch my ear. [i][[/i]In fact, I'm always surprised when I see how globally huge and popular the Cure are as they just weren't on my musical radar as such. [i]...another little tape splice][/i] Similarly the Velvets, the Fall and the Doors. Just not for me. Others I have avoided for different reasons. Modern rap and r'n'b tends to be just a bit too... well unpleasant... for my personal tastes and finding the few artists I might like amongst the ones I probably won't is probably too much effort. Other genres I'll find my little artist niches and stick within these - like with modern (90s+ dance music) I know what I like (in my wardrobe). Elsewhere there are artists I just don't know who I must get round to exploring some time but have never quite found the time or impetus... Another form of blind spot. I never properly checked out Motown, Stax and Philly beyond stuff on the radio until I was in my very late 20s. Of course, it's perfectly possible to enjoy (your) music without having an appreciation of the heritage and history of music. It's nice when folks do delve deeper but it doesn't mean they don't love the music they listen to any less for know knowing that history. Some will delve and some won't. And of course, some are closer to that historical context than others. And some will never understand that context on the same visceral level. I was just thinking the other day when Rock Around The Clock came on the car radio. "Try taking a modern teenager, show them a photo of Bill Haley and play them Rock Around The Clock and then try to convince them that this musician and record was so radical and dangerous when it came out that it sparked off public affray and vandalism..." Similarly that Elvis was deemed too corrupting to impressionable young minds... Nah, mate! Your having a larff!

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1452689714' post='2952424'] Hopefully not, but I bloody well will if it carries on in this vein -- when accusations of lying start flying, it's time to calm the f*** down and take a deep breath. The OPs question was a very simple one that (if I'm reading it correctly) was about bands/genres you have been hitherto unfamiliar with. Let's see if we can keep it in that vein without any crap being thrown around, shall we? And please bear in mind that just as not liking a particular band doesn't automatically make them crap, it also doesn't automatically equate to a lack of [i]respect[/i] for them. Sometimes not liking something just means, y'know, not liking it. [/quote] +10,000!

And if the next rehearsal is full of snarky comments perhaps a quiet and gentle word with each member afterwards to say, "Look, the guy's settling in and learning the set and we're getting used to him. It'll take a little time to gel like before but all the snippy comments (from everyone) aren't helping. Any chance you could reign it back while we all get back up to speed. Realise it's a bit frustrating. We're all just trying to work on getting it right. Thanks, really appreciate it."

Blue, when you say "Megadeath" repeatedly do tell me that you were being ironic for comedy purposes... If not... Megadeath? You sure? ;-)

[quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1452630390' post='2951902'] OBBM or Award Session. No contest. [/quote] Yes, Award's Cleartone cables are also very good and very reasonably priced.

I've never heard a a whole album by either the Cure or the Smiths... The occasional tune on the radio but never a whole album... Nor by the Fall. I have heard albums by the Doors and the Velvet Underground but only sufficient to know that I don't need to hear any more albums by them.

[quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1452546559' post='2951117'] A last and [u][i]essential[/i][/u] point is setting the input level correctly, if you don't, the compressor won't work properly. Early models will just have a clip light whereas later versions have the 'traffic light' style input meter. Set it just below clip (never mind the old keep the pre down and use the master volume, doesn't work the same on a graphic Trace) which may mean setting it above 7 but thats normal on one of these even if it does seem odd. Hope that helps. Matt [/quote] +1 for the tip on setting the input level right. The old trick should work of setting the input gain at 0 and then playing as hard as you can whilse increasing the gain knob. Do this until it only just starts to flash the clip light on the loudest notes. Then back off the gain knob a tiny smidge so that the clip light doesn't light and you should have pretty much the optimum match between your guitar signal and the input gain stage of the amp.

Just heard it on BBC Radio 2. Gosh. So sudden and such a loss. There will never be another Bowie in so very many ways.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1452388639' post='2949592'] Dave /OBBM. . . . every time. [url="http://bassic-bits.co.uk/"]http://bassic-bits.co.uk/[/url] [/quote] Oh, and if you want something obscure that's not listed on his site drop him an email coz ha can probably do it for you for a song anyway!

[quote name='Si600' timestamp='1452367988' post='2949368'] Dave, goes under the forum name of Obbm [/quote] I was going to second this thought but having looked down the thread I think I am going to have to "fifth" it instead. Top bloke, top cables, unbelievably reasonable (in truth be told, low) price.

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1452461302' post='2950191'] I fell in love with the 5 string many moons ago. Check out some of Bela Fleck's stuff. [/quote] Check out his Mrs too, Abigail Washburn. Top player, esp when she was in Uncle Earl. Great band!

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1452432937' post='2949856'] He's a good player, and was a good player from the first track on the first album. He's used lots of different basses over the years (Ricks, Wals, Kubickis, Peaveys) but was favouring Aria SB models at the time, which are very toppy, aggressive sounding basses. Play that line fingerstyle on an SB & that's what it sounds like. [/quote] I'd second that emotion Rhys. Played an Aria SB700 for years (still got it) and it really did have that kind of punchy, middly sound when you pushed it and really dug in. Whether that is the real bass (my vote - as to there being some slips, remember it was in pre Pro Tools days) or a play along it goes to show what a great bass line Rio is!

I've got the Pro Tune app and it seems pretty good to me. Love using OnSong for chord sheets and PDFs. I control it with a Bluetooth foot pedal. Very handy.

Kate Mossman is a properly good writer. Hadn't realised that she was now a staffer and editor at the New Statesman. Always enjoy reading her stuff.

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1452335414' post='2948925'] Hmmm, I thought you were going to say that once you'd put both basses inside it you didn't have the strength to carry the thing! [/quote] Bilbo hasn't opened the case and tried it out yet. With a Wal and a 7 string in there I look forward to next week's "I'm REALLY getting old" thread...