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[quote name='2elliot' timestamp='1355697535' post='1901620'] I tried a Sandberg California yesterday. It reminded me of a 5 string Trace Elliot T Bass I once owned. Beautifully built, awful to play... 30 seconds later and it was back on the stand. I was gutted, it looked fantastic. On the up side my GAS is cured. [/quote] Got to agree that the first time I tried one (unplugged) it didn't feel right...

Dingwall? I actually think they make stunning instruments so I'm being tongue in cheek.

[quote name='S9_S12_Bass' timestamp='1355674562' post='1901210'] Just an update, turned it on this morning and there was a high pitched hum/ring which I hadn't noticed before - if I did I don't remember but I was worried it was caused by the damage so rang dawsons and they are picking it up and sending me a replacement. No questions asked and I get to keep the bass big muff! [/quote] Class!

What is the best socket tester for metal?

I think saying that Fender 5 strings are very unpopular and poor is out of date. Their latest models are fantastic. I don't own one, so I have no dog in this fight! I don't like buying second hand that much either. Sometimes it doesn't work out buying second hand. The best way is to test test test, then if you are decided, save and order.

The problem is, budget 5 string basses can put you off the whole idea of a 5 string. It did with me for 10 years or more! (Tanglewood 5 string back in the day....awful).

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1355481290' post='1898872'] Why do need all them musicman basses Gareth? [/quote] Dunno haha. I don't collect much apart from gear, and I spend the rest on clothes. I don't have a car now (and won't until I live outside the city centre) so I'm just careful with money and buy ace stuff. My girlfriend encourages it.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1355481351' post='1898874'] Cheers for that, it really helps Sound and look and balance of a musician, but there's just something about the ergonomics of the neck which i need to try out again. I think a jazz neck is the only one that would ever really suit me [/quote] No problem! All the Musicman 5er necks are virtually the same (apart from wood differences, paint, board material etc) but the spacing is tighter than most 5 string basses...so this might helps as its more 'Jazz' like. It depends if you like the profile though.

In my experience of going into 5 string territory (it took me a LONG time to make the jump as I wanted to get the right bass) it is always best to try them out, but realise also that your hands and muscle memory will adjust once you've had it, no matter what the spacing/scale. A few things I found out are below, but this is just what I found: 35" scale = better B? FALSE. Any well constucted 5 string bass can have a good B string. It ISN'T just about the B...its about balance. I tried 6 or more Lakland 35" Skyline basses and not only did I start disliking the B, I disliked the high weight and the poor QC for a pretty expensive bass. I also found the D and G strings didn't have the presence to match the huge B tone. Fender - good at 5 string basses? I tried a normal passive American Precision the other day, and it was a 5 string. Lovely bass, and well worth the money. The B blended nicely with the other strings. It wasn't perfect, but its good for what it is! Fender Deluxe (2010 ish onward) 5 string basses? Never played one, sorry, but the aesthestics are great. It's great that there is a passive/active switch but I'm not sure I'd bond with the pre-amp and noiseless pups. I need to try one. Musicman 5 string basses. I'm biased, because I LOVE the Musicman Stingray and I have since I first saw one back when I was learning. I always said to myself 'if I get a 5 string it'll be a Ray 5'. I spent about 18 months faffing with Laklands, trying all sorts of basses, trying to find the 'one'. What did I go back to? Musicman Stingray 5, and I ordered a HS. It is beautiful, lightweight, well made, great pre-amp, fantastic electronics, great spacing (I can almost slap on it now...getting there) and a timeless tone. There is a reason why these basses are almost an industry standard 5 string, (more so in the 90s). This led me to love the Musicman 5 string package, and now I have 3 with another on the way. Musicman designed it as a totally new bass, not just a Stingray with an extra string. Those pickups are great for a well balanced tone, and a nice tight punchy B string. Made in the USA, great after service, good quality hardshell case. They used to be about £1400 so if you shop around you could get a bargain. If you are really daring, try a Bongo. Its all quite a personal thing...you need to bond with it.

?! Weirdest end to a topic ever.

Guitar guitar? I've had similar experiences with them.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1355333064' post='1897111'] It's a Fullerton RI. Fender were at the top of their game around this time, and that's why they command good money. Yep, the price is on the high side but if someone wants one, they'll pay it. [/quote] Agreed. Just because we are very strict on slightly higher prices on basschat, doesn't mean the rest of the bass/guitar buying world is. I don't think the saying 'its worth what someone will pay for it' applies to a quality instrument. Its worth whatever the seller WANTS it to be worth, and if people can't stretch to it, they don't get it! Simple as.

[quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1355268120' post='1896283'] That's interesting - what makes you prefer the Baer Ml112 over the Vanderkley? I really need to use lightweight gear but I haven't heard either. How does the Baer 112 sound? Frank. [/quote] Ah. Only going on tone profile reviews I'm afraid and what Baer state is their tone goal with the ML112.

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1355265234' post='1896233'] So that's recommendations for 2 cabs weighing about 90lb total, for someone asking if they could get a 1 cab solution weighing under 30lb?! A typical neo 212 weighs under 60lb and is plenty by lots of people's standards...([i]edit:[/i] not disputing the tonal qualities of the aggies which a lot of people really like) Personally I could get by gigging with a mid-level 112 for a lot of indoor scenarios, but if you wanted the 'biggest' 112 sound you could get in a reasonable lightweight form and had the watts to drive them, then the BF Big Baby, Vanderkley 112MNT or even Kappalite-loaded BFM Jack 112 have the best output potential IMO. The choice depends a lot on preferred voicing for me - where you want the volume has a big impact. [/quote] It was just a suggestion. Personally I'd prefer the Baer ML112 over your suggestions but only from a tone point of view, although the Vanderkley might tick the boxes. The Gallien Neo 112-II would be a good well priced solution.

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1355255971' post='1896084'] Even a Barefaced Midget? [/quote] Well, I have no experience of that cabinet, and it might hold up enough mid range to give you enough volume. Personally, it wouldn't be my choice. I'd go for an Aguilar DB112 x 2. Its a tried an tested amazing tone. Not light...45lbs each, but worth it.

Hi all Free wardrobe! Works absolutely fine, just needs the screws tightening up. Free for pickup in NE1 (Newcastle centre). Full address provided on PM. Its lightweight to move, just needs a van as its large. If I get no response I'll skip it next week. PM for info. Cheers Gareth

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1355253606' post='1896033'] Ideally I'd find a single sub-30lb 112 that I could gig without PA support. Don't even know if that's possible but that's the aim. [/quote] Hate to say it, but unless you pickup a Baer ML112 or a Thunderchild 112 you are going to struggle...a lot. Even with those it still won't throw that much volume.

I saw Rancid in Newcastle but on their own tour. It was fantastic and so was the atmosphere.

I don't like the new Classifieds section, sorry There are some players who buy stuff to sell on here for no charge, and make profit, so yeah, a donation should be required. Subscription to sell might be a bit harder to run...depends.

The recent review of the latest DJ5 states that the pups aren't even in the correct Jazz place (60s or 70s) so that might be why Dave....or the 35 inch scale. Yours was a looker though.

If the right colour Modulus came up with the LP pup I'd buy it!

Love em. No exciting bass lines though.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1355147415' post='1894577'] Re Lakland I meant the overall bass which are very ray like and very nice too, probably something I'd concider swapping to if I lost the ray love, that or a Modulus funk5. [/quote] Trust me I wouldn't put Lakland Skyline anywhere near the latest 08- Fenders and virtually all EBMM basses. They are made to a much lower budget by Cort and then overpriced.