i'm essentislly in number 3 except we're not a startup, been going for about 8 years. work commitments mean we cant practice more than we do and we take what gigs we can get off our own back, we do it for fun but bedroom boys we aint, we take it very seriously as if the audience doesnt enjoy it then we dont enjoy it so its got to be good. We recently played a well known venue in our area and got a better reaction than some of the more established bands that play there from all accounts. but what do i know i'll get back in my room