Kiwi Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Oh yeah, good choice. I'd add the Modulus Sonic Hammer I owned was also brutally aggressive. And Rich was right about Status. Some (but not all) of the earlier Series II basses and some (but not all) of the Empathy basses (through necks) can sound very brittle. I'm surprised by the suggestion of a Jaydee. I played one for 12 years, mahogany isn't typically a bright wood and even though the pickups are single coil, they're also very flat response... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 well, should have thought about it myself: the funk unlimited / sonic hammer (which is its predecessor, right ?) could be the right choice... so, jaydees are not so good on the high end ? i mean, personal taste is different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Washburn Status (it's headless tho') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote name='green' post='800213' date='Apr 8 2010, 08:56 PM']well, should have thought about it myself: the funk unlimited / sonic hammer (which is its predecessor, right ?) could be the right choice... so, jaydees are not so good on the high end ? i mean, personal taste is different...[/quote] Compared to my Modulus Sonic Hammer, my Jaydee was warm and soft. But don't take my word for it. Modulus Flea: Jaydee Supernatural: Status Empathy Can't find a clip of a Parker Fly bass that doesn't have compression on it, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='799666' date='Apr 8 2010, 11:52 AM']My Thumb (stock MEC everything) has a lot of treble content flat. More than my old Stingray ever did. Switching it into passive mode still gives a ton of treble.[/quote] Same with the Corvette Standard (active, ash). I have to back the treble off quite a bit, i just like a little bit of bite. Centred it's quite overbearing My Zoot (Areo's thru Aquilar pre) is the total opposite, no spiky treble at all which i quite like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Nice to see Jim's old Empathy getting a good workout in the video there! I like the SIMS flashing LED's, too! I suddenly feel inadequate because mine don't flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='800652' date='Apr 9 2010, 09:40 AM']I suddenly feel inadequate because mine don't flash[/quote] Dress your bass up in a dirty macintosh? Ok, its not the same but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hmmm... Not sure on that one, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 [quote name='Crazykiwi' post='800627' date='Apr 9 2010, 10:15 AM']Compared to my Modulus Sonic Hammer, my Jaydee was warm and soft. But don't take my word for it.[/quote] Useful comparison, although the acoustics and recording vary. Take your point about your warm Jaydee, I must say mine is very bright, but I would agree doesn't have the harsh edge of my Stingray with the treble full up. The posting wanted harsh, so Stingray for that. Mahogany is a very hard wood compared to the usual woods used for bodes, I would have thought this would have given the Jaydee a bright sound, if any audible influence as the Mark Kings have through necks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Interestingly enough this is a subject close to my heart and i have my own question! I will soon have another Pedulla MVP in my hands, Its got an all maple construction, so naturally bright. Should i go for the EMG active route? Or go for Passive Dimarzio Willpower (IE billy Sheehan) P pickup and some other jazz pup? Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 i have an Ibanez rdgr, and it is incredibly toppy, with loads of bottom and not alot of mids. not too sure which model in the range it is though unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 [quote name='green' post='799142' date='Apr 7 2010, 07:54 PM']and i'm not talking about boosting the high end, i'm talking about leaving the preamp flat ![/quote] how do you set a stingray flat ? Do the newer ones have a centre detente ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 3EQ have center detent, and i set if flat ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 [quote name='4 Strings' post='801409' date='Apr 9 2010, 11:02 PM']Mahogany is a very hard wood compared to the usual woods used for bodes[/quote] The qualities of any species of wood can vary significantly even within the same tree. A piece taken near the root will be a lot denser and harsher than a piece taken near the crotch. Having said that, ash is typically a wood that is known for being brittle sounding. Maple is bright but too bright to be harsh, its clean sounding...almost glassy if super dense. If you have a look at any discussions on tonewood using Google, mahogany isn't generally selected by luthiers for brightness, its selected for warmth and midrange. In my experience its tended to be fairly soft. My Smith BSR5GN had a mahogany core and I could mark that with a fingernail. No way I could do that with any maple I've handled. The recordings could potentially vary but the differences between the attack in the instruments are pretty significant to my ears at least, and fairly authentic to my ears. I deliberately chose a fairly harsh sounding Jaydee in the clip I posted too. By comparison there are loads of Level 42 clips where Mark Kings bass is softer sounding even when chorus isn't used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBobTTD Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I have a bass with an EMG 40DC in the bridge. It is, by itself, very harsh indeed. I blend it at least 50-50 with an EMG 40CS for warmer tones. This is all with the EQ flat. I think an EMG DC pickup will fit your needs for harsh treble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 A G+L with treble boost on, switched to the bridge pickup has a lot of top end. Stringing through the body adds brightness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 How does through body stringing add brightness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 A lot of this will vary between individual instruments even within the same make and model. A friend uses a 3EQMM and I wouldn't say it's especially bright set flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 [quote name='Jerry_B' post='799234' date='Apr 7 2010, 09:01 PM']Yes - thankyou, pedant [/quote] Right on brother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 [quote name='4000' post='801635' date='Apr 10 2010, 11:10 AM']A lot of this will vary between individual instruments even within the same make and model. A friend uses a 3EQMM and I wouldn't say it's especially bright set flat.[/quote] well, i guess his treble section on the amp is faulty ;-) now, i found a good example of what i mean. listen to this clip: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJwU-Ipe5s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJwU-Ipe5s[/url] the stingray has a broad high end range, while the thumb has lows, with a bit of treble on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) [quote name='green' post='801716' date='Apr 10 2010, 12:34 PM']well, i guess his treble section on the amp is faulty ;-)[/quote] Funny, I would've thought if you start eq-ing then it's no longer flat. Edited April 10, 2010 by 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeBrownBass Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Brightest sounding bass i've ever hear are GB basses through EBS amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 [quote name='Crazykiwi' post='801565' date='Apr 10 2010, 09:43 AM']How does through body stringing add brightness?[/quote] A fair comment. It probably just adds sustain. Sometimes I just write the first thing I think of. The g+ls are bright though, especially if you spray them fluorescent yellow and orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDM Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I played a Status bass a while back and there was a lot of "zing" even though the strings were relatively dead. Spectors, especially the old all-maple ones, are generally pretty bright sounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 i guess i found another really bright bass: kubicki x-factor too bad those are so rare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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