prowla Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I keep seeing mention of "Vintage Modified" Fenders & Squiers - they don't say it on them, so what does it mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 It’s just a name for one of their product lines really. They tend to have some looks/features of the original era instruments but perhaps with a modern tweak here and there. I.E might have a hi-mass bridge or 4 bolt neck that the original didn’t etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Everyone of those that I’ve had has been excellent - it’s more cosmetics though, than anything like vintage voiced pups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 They're kind of like the Classic Vibe series with a few modern features. I used to have a VM 70s Jazz and it was fantastic, the fact that it weighed about as much as a planet notwithstanding (at least that part was period-authentic!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I think the idea was to approximate a 60s/70s-era instrument that had been tweaked or upgraded as many were back in't day. Ther Vintage Modified fretless Jazz (the only VM I've had) was basically a Jaco copy - lined, no pickguard, siver knobs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) The Squiers were good quality too - made in Indonesia before production shifted to China for the early CV models. These days they're a bit of a bargain as they're next to nothing and have SD Design pickups, real rosewood boards etc. I'm still on the lookout for one of the PJ models coming up locally to me. My VM70s strat is the best £140 I've spent on a guitar in years. Probably not the most authentic reissue (although the poly finish gives that authentically seventies plastic-dipped feel...) but the neck is brilliant, nice and light, and the pickups are hot with a mid push that sounds almost Telecaster-ish. Plus at that price when I accidentally picked the gig-bag up unzipped and it took a header into the warehouse floor I only cried a little bit! Edited February 10, 2023 by borntohang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I had a VM Jag PJ - black with a rosewood board and blocks with a J neck. It was a really nice bass. I picked it up thinking I'd mod it, but I didn't need to change a thing on it, the Duncan designed pups were great.They can be picked up pretty cheap nowadays too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I had a Squier VM Jazz fretless, which when it came out was kind of industry standard entry level fretless. Ebanol board, as I recall. Quite nice. I also had a Squier VM Mustang, which was a great little bass. In fact I've had two, both sold of course. I'd probably buy another one if a black/maple came up for sale. Stock pup was a bit meh but an easy upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 You can sometimes pick these up cheaply, as people wrongly assume they have a Squier Affinity. They are pretty amazing from my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, asingardenof said: They're kind of like the Classic Vibe series with a few modern features. I used to have a VM 70s Jazz and it was fantastic, the fact that it weighed about as much as a planet notwithstanding (at least that part was period-authentic!). Actually, that was my next question... What does "Classic Vibe" mean? They're not labelled as such (neither VM or CV), are they? 2 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: You can sometimes pick these up cheaply, as people wrongly assume they have a Squier Affinity. They are pretty amazing from my experience. I think these days it's the other way round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, prowla said: Actually, that was my next question... What does "Classic Vibe" mean? They're not labelled as such (neither VM or CV), are they? I think these days it's the other way round! Not explicitly labelled on the guitars, no. Classic Vibe was basically a marketing term for slightly more accurate Squier reissues, or at least visually accurate. 'High end' manufacturing (for the price point), tinted necks, classic hardware and alnico pickups. Worth having a browse through the wiki: https://www.squierwiki.com/Classic-Vibe-Series https://www.squierwiki.com/Vintage-Modified-Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I think the Serial # start CV and VM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotcher Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I’ve got a squier vintage modified precision TB that’s a tele bass replica from, I think, about 2008-9. Bought it new and it’s certainly decent, though not sure it’s Up to original CV quality 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 20 hours ago, PaulThePlug said: I think the Serial # start CV and VM... No, but Chinese made models will start with C and Indonesian with I. The letters following usually indicate factory - my VM strat is ICS for Indonesia/Cor-Tek for example. My Chinese CVs are Cxx but the newer ones have Ixx serials. I should really stop buying so many Squiers. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd56hawk Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 One level below a Classic Vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) On 10/02/2023 at 15:52, prowla said: Actually, that was my next question... What does "Classic Vibe" mean? They're not labelled as such (neither VM or CV), are they? The Classic Vibes had a sticker on the pickguard cling film, but I don't recall if the Vintage Modifieds also did: Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe were just the names of two of Squier's ranges of instruments. VMs were made in Indonesia, and CVs were made in China, and in my experience, the Classic Vibes were better quality, but a bit more expensive. A few years ago Squier disconnected the Vintage Modified range, and moved production of the CVs to Indonesia, so the current Classic Vibes are somewhere between the original Classic Vibes and Vintage Modifieds of 10-15 years ago. Also, only Squiers were with Vintage Modified or Classic Vibe, Fenders weren't (although the Fender Modern Player range were made in the same factory as the Classic Vibes were) Edited February 11, 2023 by Jono Bolton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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